@lyn1337 I'm using #postmarketOS stable phosh on a #Librem5, and #XMPP messaging works fine with the default Chats app: #GnomeChats / #Chatty.
#DinoIM works even better as it supports audio calls. Unlike Chatty, however, it can't run in the background.
@dos @ati1 @linmob That automatic switching from speaker to handset is only for the Calls app, right?
I was referring to #e2ee voice calls on #SignalDesktop, #ElementMessenger, #DinoIM and #DeltaChat. I did try #PureOS Crimson alpha a few days ago but forgot to test this, so would definitely be interested if there's any news regarding this : )
@Satiah I'm also daily driving a #Librem5 with most important think working for my use case: Volte calls and SMS (although I avoid both since #SaltTyphoon), 4G data, Wi-Fi, web browsing on Firefox, email, e2ee messaging and calls using #SignalApp, #DinoIM (XMPP), latest apps from Flathub, and of course the headphone jack!
#PureOS offers a solid, stable experience but in case you want to try something else, #postmarketOS (with phosh, KDE Plasma, Gnome, SXMO) and #Mobian also work on the Librem 5.
@ati1 @linmob Depends what the user wants from a personal device, how they use it and what their priorities are. If someone's priorities are a modern camera, running proprietary Android apps and their money is held hostage by banks requiring #Duopoly apps, they should check back later, perhaps when the Librem 5 "Fir" model is released.
On the other hand, if #FreeSoftware, #privacy, #modularity, #repairability, #ecofriendliness, #decentralisation, #digitalindependence, etc. are valued above other things, the Librem 5 and the higher-spec model, the #LibertyPhone, can absolutely work in 2025 and beyond.
I am daily driving a #Librem5 with #postmarketOS and everything important to me works: VoLTE calls and SMS (although I avoid them due to #SaltTyphoon), 4G data, Wi-Fi, camera with OK quality photos (see: #ShotOnLibrem5), GPS with #PureMaps, web browsing with #FirefoxESR, web apps (including banking) using #GNOMEWeb and #BraveBrowser, email using #Geary and #DeltaChat, audio calls on #SignalMessenger, #Matrix ( #ElementMessenger), #XMPP ( #DinoIM), #JitsiMeet, etc.
There are occasional bugs and quirks, and the device itself has limitations but nothing that I can't work around.
Not sure if I missed anything. Let me know if you have a specific use case that you absolutely require and I'll see if I can test...
@crw We tested #dinoim conferences with 3 people and it worked quite good. CPU usage was very high so the video of one person started to lag after a while (probably because of temperature cpu frequency reduction).
One UX issue: When adding and person to call you do not get a feedback. You click the button and wait if someone joins or not.
I do not yet see a mention of #Mobian or #PostmarketOS on this thread... but at the OS level it is basically there....
#Phosh (which is #Gnome based) and #KDE mobile are largely quite useable, as well as lightweight options such as #SXMO provide a working mobile "desktop" experience.
I use Mobian every day to communicate with folks using #DinoIM (an #XMPP client) and through that have an SMS gateway.
The gap, is the ability to get the functionality of arbitrary android apps...
My grandmother recently got locked out of #WhatsApp because her phone broke, and the spare one we had on hand is one WhatsApp has decided is too old to run on 💀
Fortunately, #XMPP has no such qualms! She's currently keeping up with the family group chat on #Quicksy while others of us use #Conversations, #DinoIM, and #Gajim. (Of course, extended family and friends are another matter 😔)
This serves as a reminder that closed apps may close you out—but open protocols have your back forever! :xmpp:
@debacle
I must say ppl are getting burnt w/ #Dino. #DinoIM defaults to e2ee *disabled* for every channel/room. And the padlock is *very* subtle. You get no warning if you send something in the clear. No indicator. I have been burnt a few times by that.
A bug report was opened 4 years ago. It should be urgent but still no progress. I have had lengthy private 1-on-1 discussions then discovered days later that the whole conversation was in the clear.
@dequbed @bootblackcub @prose
#DinoIM version 0.4 is much more mobile-friendly. A big usability improvements on my #PinePhone with #Mobian because I now can stay in the vertical layout, no longer having to rotate my phone. https://dino.im/blog/2023/02/dino-0.4-release/
About XMPP universe-ality, Jingle is an extension adding peer-to-peer #P2P signaling, such as in #VoIP and video-conferencing. Some software using XMPP Jingle. From wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_(protocol):
#Asterisk PBX #telephony
#Coccinella
#Conversations
#Empathy
#FreeSWITCH
#Gajim
GoogleTalk for Gmail, Android
#iChat
#Jitsi
#KDE #Telepathy
#Kopete
#Miranda NG
#Monal IM-Client
#Pidgin
#Psi
#QIP Infium
#Yate
#RemoteVNC
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Also #DinoIM https://dino.im
@devinprater well, for a start I stopped using Facebook and never got onto Telegram (okay, kinda a bit for a little while) 😅
So my texting is restricted to pure XMPP through #DinoIM, #ConversationsIM, and (very occasionally, more rarely) #Gajim 🗨️
Well not "purely"; I also have #Hangouts (yes, the Google one) for the friends of mine who haven't switched... :loading:
Dino is a free open source XMPP/Jabber app which includes support for encrypted messaging, voice/video calls and conferencing. You can follow at:
➡️ @dino
It's available for many different versions of Linux from https://dino.im
#Dino #DinoIM #XMPP #Jabber #Messaging #Messenger #IM #VOIP #FOSS #FLOSS #Libre #FreeSoftware #OpenSource #Linux #OMEMO #E2E #E2EE
Dino è un'applicazione di messaggistica sicura e rispettosa della privacy. Utilizza il protocollo XMPP (Jabber) per la comunicazione decentralizzata.
La versione 0.3 è dedicata alle chiamate. Ora Dino supporta le chiamate tra due o più persone!
Si usa crittografia end-to-end e una connessione diretta tra i peer quando possibile.
È possibile avviare una chiamata in un gruppo privato o invitare ulteriori contatti a una chiamata esistente con modalità peer-to-peer.
Le chiamate sono criptate end-to-end con la migliore crittografia supportata sia da voi che dal vostro contatto.
Videochiamate criptate possono essere effettuate tra Dino e per esempio Conversations o Movim.
Controllate di aver installato la versione 0.3 per le chiamate.
Started setting up an #XMPP server (#prosody #prosodyIM). Next steps: figure out/fix auto encryption in #dinoIM, allow attachments, store 1 week of message history. And for the later future: figure out audio/video calling? (From what I've read, we can do that without #SIP)
Dino is a free open source XMPP/Jabber messaging app for Linux and BSD desktop computers. You can follow at:
➡️ @dino
The official site is at https://dino.im
Dino supports end-to-end encrypted messaging through OMEMO, and they are now testing encrypted video calls too.
#Dino #DinoIM #XMPP #Jabber #Messaging #Messenger #IM #InstantMessaging #InstantMessenger #Apps #App #FOSS #FLOSS #Libre #FreeSoftware #OpenSource #Linux #BSD
@dino just merged the calls feature into master, so go check it out and test with #conversations and #sinskin!
