So someone in FLOSS #DeltaChat group said #ARM #SBCs are terrible at computation power. And that a #miniPC has much better computation power comparing to something like #RaspberryPi. I had plans for a #homeserver and I wanted to use my #LibreComputer #Alta and utilize its #npu.

Libre Computer boards have really good prices comparing to the performance they provide comparing to other ARM SBCs such as #RPi. However, comparing them with a mini or even #microPC, an old micro PC provides better computation power.

LibreComputer #RenegadeElite features a #Rockchip #rk3399, 4GB DDR4 and costs 76 USD:

https://libre.computer/products/roc-rk3399-pc/

On the other hand, this renewed #HP #EliteDesk is 100 USD and with far better specs:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-EliteDesk-Mini-Desktop-Computer/dp/B08L9NB7RD?rnid=2257851011&th=1

Maybe it's not fair compare a renewed product with a brand new one. But it seems for having a homeserver to #selfhost things, if we factor out power usage, an old mini PC is better than a new ARM SBC.

However, if we also consider power usage, the abovementioned LibreComputer board consumes only 15 W under full load. And the old Ryzen 5 on that HP mini PC has a TDP of 35 W. This affects running cost of your homeserver and also the cost for the #UPS. But for myself, there isn't a big deal between 15W and 35W.

Edit: Comments or advises are very welcome!

Edit2: On second thought, I won't go for second hand or renewed. I want to use them as servers and this means 100% uptime. And I doubt second hand ones will survive, especially given the more power they consume which generates heat. And since my budget for a homeserver is 100 USD, ARM SBCs seem to be the only choice. I can research more though.

#selfhosting #selfhostingjourney #selfhostingchronicles #serverathome #server #tech #technology #geek #geekful #geeks #nerd #nerds #nerdy

It's fancy new toy day: #HP #EliteDesk 800 G3 #SFF!

This might become my new #HomeServer - it's got 2x 3.5in HDD bays …🙄 of course, i'm missing one 15cm 90° SATA cable (+4 bucks, via eBay, takes a few days) …NO, you can absolutely NOT make straight SATA cables wörk 😅 …too tight!

…just like #ASRock, it's got fancy internet BIOS upgrade built in - plug it in, DHCP, yoink, done! 🤩 👍

…i'm not seeing any SR-IOV options in BIOS, though …we'll see

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Who says Apple is the only one who can make sleek and quiet desktops? #EliteDesk #MiniPC

anybody has a hint how to #debug a #linux kernel? i have an #hp #elitedesk (or a #prodesk) with #intel i5 8500t, but since a while it doesn't output any audio over #displayport / #hdmi. it does work fine on #windows. #dmesg says "snd_hda_codec_hdmi hdaudioC0D2: HDMI: pin NID 0x6 not registered". the same problem can be seen on #dell #optiplex

I have an HP #EliteDesk 705 G3 (4core 3.1-3.8GHz 28nm AMD A12-9800E GB: 656s 1512m) with 16GB RAM. I've been trying to find a smaller, lighter, more power efficient replacement. I was looking at the #Radxa Zero 2 Pro (6core Armv8 1.8-2.2GHz 12nm GB: 375s 1133m) 4GB RAM. Then I remembered I have a Pixel 3a (GB: 367s 1221m) 4GB RAM, and I just got a $99 OnePlus 6T (GB: 524s 1747m) 8GB RAM. So it's hard to justify the #RadxaZero2Pro #SBC just for #AlpineLinux. What would you do in this situation?

Framework’s Laptop 13 gets a Core Ultra upgrade, professional graphic design on Debian without Wayland, and poking the HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini with a Linux stick.

https://linuxgamecast.com/2024/06/linux-on-the-l33t-desk/

For some bizarre moon-reason, Amazon and eBay are flooded with HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Minis. These are not anemic N100 powered snooze bricks, nay!

https://interfacinglinux.com/2024/06/03/linux-on-the-hp-elitedesk-705-g4-mini/

@hughsie how about home user / gamer mainboards from #Gigabyte, #Asus, #Msi, #ASRock and other friends?

Also #hp #prodesk / #elitedesk would be nice. In their case UEFI can be updated over the internet from UEFI itself (no USB stick needed).

My #hp #elitedesk finally arrived and i'm absolutely loving it! Small, quiet and upgradable. This is exactly what i was searching for

Due to #dhl, my #hp #elitedesk arrives way later than expected. I'm already so excited to upgrade it. Bought it nearly #barebones and i'm planning to equip it with a 2TB nvme for main storage, 2TB 2.5" hdd for backups, an intel core i5 (not quite sure which one rn), and 32GB of ram (64GB if #mixtral8x7b runs smooth that way).

Mit #HP #EliteDesk habe ich auch sehr gute Erfahrungen gemacht.
https://www.refurbed.de/p/hp-elitedesk-800-g4-sff/?co=de&utm_cluster=gradeA&utm_group=hp-elitedesk-800-g4-sff&msclkid=72db33b7892d10efe5fd5673e316b5f3&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=DE%20-%20Bing%20Smart%20Shopping%20%7C%20010%20-%20All%20Brands&utm_term=4574930452090941&utm_content=Ad%20group%20%231

@r_em_y @geerlingguy the only exception of 10" never being used is in AV gear, as those started with huge 19" mountable tube amps and nowadays still use that instead.

Personally, I do like 10" and 19" and a lot of "smol" desktops like the #ThinkCentre Tiny / #ThinkStation Tiny and #ProDesk Mini / #EliteDesk Mini fit neatly alone in 10" and 19" together...

https://techhub.social/@r_em_y/110962839513852197

I've even seen 19" Dual-ITX and 10" ITX cases for mini servers...

I couldn't help myself, and bought another one 👉👈
This time it's an #Elitedesk 800 G1 featuring an i5 4590T (4 cores), for 50€.

These things are so cheap, it's compulsive buying at this point.
I'm currently at 5, I need to sell 1 or 2.

#homeserver #TinyMiniMicro

@simplenomad my preference for #homeassistant is with #docker now in a second hand #Elitedesk that I got recently very cheep but really impressive machine!

Inspired by @ATLChris 🙌 but don’t get me into the promox, please 😅

Any expert about #HP #elitedesk?

#TinyMiniMicro gang ❤️

My 4 HP minis, used for various #homelab shenanigans.

From bottom to top:
- HP #Prodesk 400 G1 - Core i3 2c/4t - 16GB
- HP #Prodesk 400 G2 - Celeron 2c/2t - 8GB
- HP #Prodesk 400 G3 - Pentium 2c/2t - 16GB
- HP #Elitedesk 800 G3 65w - Core i5 4c/4t - 32GB

I cannot insist enough about how perfect these machines are for tinkerers like us.
Low power (7w in idle) but powerful, compact, and cheap as hell on the used market. (I scored the 3 lower ones for less than 50€ each)

Pictured are the specs for my current workstation. I haven't upgraded because I haven't had to, as this does pretty much what I'd like it to do.

Thinking about playing around with some HP Z series workstations, as I have a few in "my collection".

I have a Z400 and maybe a few others. I plan on experimenting with using #Intel #xeon processors in business class desktops, like the Dell #Optiplex and HP #EliteDesk, too.

I have a few Core 2 Quad era Dell Precision and HP workstations.

So many computers, so little time!