@silverpill yes they had that site in the torrent but no link to a fedi profile, even checked search engines, so thanks.....how far along was #glutplug? they wrote:

>"Fediverse needs help to be stay decentralised as it scales. Using large CDNs to host fediverse content brings us back to Big Tech and brings us back to being dot-'conned'. Please consider a proposal we call #GlutPlug, whereby those who post, like and boost media can become the sharers of said content over a mixnet, preferably I2P. See #GlutPlug on fediverse for more on the idea."

I'd be interested in helping theproject anyways.

Been seeing this emoji around the place, made by a "dsfgs" and published over i2p torrent, but i'm unable to find them nor a hashtag #glutplug which apparently talks about decentralizing content delivery on fedi, something i support.

anyway I just really like the emoji can anyone see the person who made it?

boosts will help, thanks

(image: a pink blue and green fediverse emoji that looks like a butterfly)

@blueghost @peertube @tilvids
If already making videos, yes. That would be wonderful!

Do mention that the videos are available on Fediverse in your intro or outro too. 😉

Re #contentDelivery we notice the need to provision services. It is great that TILvids can help but there are Fediverse instances shutting down due to inability to deliver content, such as our instance. So we're exploring a #P2P proposal we're calling #GlutPlug, to help instances stay online.

Use the tag to learn more 🙂

So we agree that instances should be small. Fifty people is a small number, but now with 150 followers and 150 follows on average, you get 50 * (150 + 150), an overall user demand of approx 15,000.

If at any one time, even just 10% of a servers' users are using a client that helps to #GlutPlug and deliver content, then we can cater to those 15,000 *much* more effectively.

We think peer-to-peer participation is the key to sustainability.

@bob @sadiedoreen @Mastodon @tokodon @carlschwan

@sadiedoreen @carlschwan @tokodon
Also we wonder if @bob of the #Epicyon might be interested in the #GlutPlug proposal. It'd require little extra if the user is using Epicyon over I2P-configured browser, the server simply tells browser to fetch content from whichever #I2Peer deemed appropriate at the time. Clearnet users of Epicyon would simply not get GlutPlugged content, and just get everything from server as normal.

You well, Bob? Interested in #P2P content delivery and fedi sustainability?

@carlschwan @tokodon
Hi Dear Carl,

How did things go with the #characterLimit issue in #Tokodon.

Did you get our message about the "Content Warning" issue?

It looks like we won't be on this instance for long as Mastohost will be shutting down this one due to a lack of funds too :( We have written lately about how a participatory #P2P element might prevent fediverse from trending to a centralised state as content serving demands grow.

Please see #GlutPlug. We are interested in your thoughts.

@erlend @jackwilliambell @elipariser @dev @0x0
We don't know if our #GlutPlug proposal is of interest here. Its for Fediverse #resilience so as fediverse scales instances don't have to shutdown due to overwhelming demands for content.

When a person boosts likes or replies to content they've downloaded they will also host it themselves for as long as it is in demand, over one of the three #I2P addresses provisioned for such. Server tells subsequent viewers to fetch content from these #I2Peers.

@msaunders @volkris @Mastodon
Whether this is about ActivityPub or not is of little consequence to us. All we see is that without some level of #participation/input from peers to help serve specific content (images and video), it is quite obvious that the #Fediverse will trend back towards re-centralisation.

We call on #I2P developers to explore how they can make something like #GlutPlug work in fediverse clients like #Tokodon (possibly #Fedilab too, but #AllPhonesAreBad so maybe not).

#APAB

@volkris @Mastodon @msaunders

Yes and no, we meant decentralised as compared to the legacy offerings.

The way Master'don will trend is back torwards #reCentralisation, because of the #contentDelivery issue.

iwrc, some instances don't try to serve all content and #hotLink(?) to the originating instance, but that has issues too, incl. #privacy.

That's why we suggest servers play a #conductor's role. With a #glutPlug they'd hotlink to I2P hosted content served by fedizens who boosted it.

@hrefna

> Unsafe

The most unsafe part about #fediverse is master-don dominates with its #antiFeatures.

M'don is not much decentralised as many assume (see #CDNs). We just had a little rant about it.

We cannot protect fedizens, without protecting instances themselves. Adoption of I2P and/or at least proposals like #GlutPlug to help decentralise #contentDelivery will protect instances, but such discussions are nowhere.

Case in point, even slow-moving #bitcoin has #I2P support now.

#privacy

It seems @Mastodon is recreating legacy #socialMedia with a "#decentralisation ability". The #Fediverse being a vehicle on which to test it.

Decentralisation in M'don is often a smokescreen. The use of #CDNs is rife. Something like #GlutPlug/#I2PFS is needed for genuine #sustainability.

The trend?

"#MakeFediverseMastodon" — make it impossible to serve without a massive #datacenter. Thus forcing a return to #BigData, algorithmic feeds, #massSurveillance and overall repression.

@msaunders

@aendra @rrwo @xtri @WizardBear
2/2

Also, Fediverse is not Mastodon but M'don is big. They've made an algorithm that favors those who operate botfarms to elevate some messages over others. Its called the #ExploreTimeline, and you may be using it right now.

They've also implemented a limiting system that we've been suffering from for about two years.

We love fedi but unless content (ie. image) distribution is distributed (see #glutPlug), that fascists (with the biggest servers) will dominate.

@thegibson @jppelt
Yes, we think the next important step in #scalingFediverse will need to come from people who boost media content. They will need to become little servers of said content, over a decentralised and anonymising network layer like #I2P.

Names like #I2PFS and #GlutPlug come to mind, haha.

@fnf
The other problem is about content delivery. Many servers struggle to serve content so they use centralised systems that undermine the goal of the Fediverse.

We envisage a time when people who interact positively too content will also help mirror such images or video content (over I2P to protect their identity, of course). Some fun names for this idea being #GlutPlug and #IP2FS.

BTW does FNF still needs a new icon?

What do you think of the name #GlutPlug to describe helping your instance serve content over I2P?

Is it too suggestive?

Would you prefer #I2PFS instead?

Help your instance serve images and other content by simply interacting in some positive way with the content.

That's what #GlutPlug is. Decentralised #IPFS over #I2P.

Imagine, while your battery is over 50%, you're anonymously sharing the great content you've found in the #fediverse network.

Would you use GlutPlug?

#fediMeta

@zleap
We tend to ignore the turdsite stuff.

Since Monday, a new interest of ours is in using the peer-to-peer network (#I2P) to #democratise fediverse #contentDelivery. So when a person positively interacts with a toot the content is retained to be served by that person (if they have not flagged content and their battery is above 50%).

In this context moderation becomes self-fulfilling, and the use of I2P protects the users from survellance and targetting.

#cdns #fediMeta #glutPlug #i2pfs

These are essentially #baitAndSwitch attacks.

A few days ago we brainstormed how #I2P might be able to democratise #contentDelivery in #Fediverse, in ways that protect users.

See our #GlutPlug post.

We hope that #Mastodon, #Akkoma, #FireFish and #Epicyon are able to seriously consider how they might do this. App developers for #Tusky and #Fedilab also.

#i2pfs

@CandyDumDub
We could call this type of thing a #GlutPlug, haha. ^^^

@icedquinn @matera @lain @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @melissabeartrix