I'm increasingly convinced that the Irgun and Lehi, completely inadvertently, invented Islamist terrorism.
Latest puzzle piece, Osama bin Laden expected the USA to respond to September 11 by leaving the Middle East.
That very clearly didn't work.
But it worked when they Irgun and Lehi did it to the British
AI is an idiot
the stats are from the #KingDavidHotel in 1946 by the #Irgun
possibly inspired September 11 a bit, but not the same event.
"Mene! Mene! Tekel Upharsin!" from a 1947 newspaper https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/170969142
"SUICIDE OF TWO CONDEMNED JEW TERRORISTS"
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wow, spooky, that sounds very familiar … "Max Kritzman, the defense attorney, who during the period of the British Mandate defended many members of the Irgun underground organization, had a hard time coping with his client’s approach. In an effort to assist Okamoto, despite the latter’s objections to the move, Kritzman turned to a psychiatrist, who pronounced Okamoto sane. Toward the end of the trial, Kritzman discovered that his client’s age did not appear on the charge sheet; taking advantage of the uncertainty, he then noted that the death penalty was prohibited for people under the age of 18. Okamoto, however, immediately cleared things up by standing and stating his actual age."
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there's a conspiracy theoretical theory about this one
https://www.infocenters.co.il/jabo/jabo_multimedia/Files/linked/%D7%9713%20-3_39.PDF
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#MeirFeinstein seems to have been subjected to so many things that get done to Muslims today…
"In reply to your question, I wish to inform you that it is not possible accurately to determine aga by X-ray examination."
#Australia did that trying to prove we could do something cruel to them … though
Maybe it's backwards to say a Jew in the 1940s got treated like a Muslim? But I'm in 2025, that's the direction I am looking in when I look at 1947.
https://www.infocenters.co.il/jabo/jabo_multimedia/Files/linked/%D7%9713%20-3_43.PDF
#islamophobia #auspol #terrorism #terrorists #IsraelTerroristState #xray #militaryagemale #womenandchildren #amputee #likud #irgun #lehi #OleiHagardom #PacificSolution #amputation #amputee #מאיר_פינשטין #מאיר_פיינשטיין
On the one hand the #Lehi # memorial society praises them, on the other hand, it makes them look exactly like #ISIS and #Hamas / #Qassam … those two don't resemble each other much at all, but they both resemble the Lehi
Really they're more like ISIS than #Hamaas and Qassam and the #Irgun are maybe closer to Qassam, but the location makes Hamaas the obvious comparison AND their newspaper is called HaMaas! … it's just kinda surreal. They're international like ISIS, and they share that bizarre combination of ethnic diversity and genocidal nationalism.
It is bizarre how similar they are to Hamas. If you look at the martyr profiles somebody is copying somebody, weirdly I think Qassam are copying via the #IDF but I don't know who has coping who out of Lehi and IDF?
I keep wondering if the bombing in Lehi Rd was some sort of tribute / critique / extremely twisted humour. Would have worked better in Moshe Barazani Street, but maybe that's in a part of town where an Arab from Nablus would look too out of place?
Maybe Lehi fans (for want of a better word) don't know they look exactly like Qassam because they only see the version of Qassam filtered through Israeli media?
Responding to this https://www.haaretz.com/life/2025-05-11/ty-article-magazine/.premium/at-the-apolitical-lehi-museum-israels-most-controversial-pre-state-militia-lives-on/00000196-a999-d9bf-a1b6-e9b920dd0000?gift=4af2fbb7f0cd46b9b24cd10a7489747c #Haaaretz #HaaretzGiftLink
Israel – and particularly #Likud – have a complicated relationship with their Middle Eastern identity.
"Iraqi! Ashkenazi! Jews! Brothers! Warriors!" is a line from the most famous Likud speech, by the former Irgun command.
It is about a young man and a teenage boy who died in 1947 (in a way that cannot be described in detail on YouTube). The Iraqi was a #Kurdish immigrant, the Ashkenazi, and the other #Ashkenazi involved in that incident, were both born in Palestine
The former Irgun commander was making a speech praising Arab Jews (albeit not by that name) and that one Kurd who fought for the #Irgun and #Lehi
But when #Netanyahu made a speech about the same pair in 2010 both Arab Israeli and Sephardic #Knesset members heckled him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phuxruHIABo&lc=Ugx68s3yS5yCKKEk1uV4AaABAg&ab_channel=IndieNile this started as a response to #IndieNile
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About half of thar sounds exactly like #Hamas
The #Irgun calling their enemy #Nazis makes more sense really
But occupation seems more realistic for Hamas, the UN agrees with that whereas the UN predecessor thought the British had a mandate?
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This gets weirder and weirder… I've now found the #Irgun calling the British the #Occupation Army
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The similarities between the #Irgun and #Hamas go way beyond "yeah, but they bombed civilians too" – the way the British reacted sounds weirdly familiar?
"The #Jewish community of #Palestine cannot be absolved from responsibility for the long series of outrages culminating in the blowing up of a large part of the Government offices in the #KingDavidHotel causing grievous loss of life. Without the support, active or passive, of the general Jewish public the #terrorist gangs who actually carried out these criminal acts would soon be unearthed, and in this measure the Jews in this country are accomplices and bear a share of the guilt." Sir #EvelynBarker http://britishpalestinepolice.org.uk/polhist35.html
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I think the #BritishEnglish word "outrage" might be some of the etymology for the weird slur Qassam have for settlers?
But it's just a weird hunch, it might be nothing or nonsense.
But it's the intersection of #Irgun terrorism and it's other use that seems analogous.
The word "outrage"' was also used in Australia in WWII to refer to the crimes of the Brownout Strangler (a member of U.S. military who raped and murdered several women in Melbourne.
The word #Qassam use usually translates as either "usurper" or something to do with sexual assaults.
It comes across as an accusation not threat. But based on how it looks when you stick their propaganda through a translation tool … i think i must be one of only English speakers doing this?
#Australia needs to remove #Hamas from Australia's "Listed #terrorist organisations", we need to stop endorsing Israel's attacks on CIVILIAN government run essential services in Gaza.
Israel see our "terrorist" designation of the entire Hamas moment as endorsement of their treatment of civilian emergency services as military targets – paramedics, firemen, and other people who save lives – because they are "Hamas" by being connected to government run services in Gaza.
At the very least Australia need to narrow the listing to the #Qassam Brigades militant wing of the Hamas movement. But even this would be difficult to justify. Hamas are NOT a threat to Australia, and the #IDF have killed more Australian citizens than Hamas in the current war, including a civilian from #Sydney in #Lebanon and an Australian aid worker in Gaza.
It is insane that we have condemned an entire, mostly civilian, government as #terrorists while allowing Likud – the successor party to the #Irgun and #Lehi terror groups – to drive #Israel into #genocidal fascism without equivalent consequences.
The Lehi and Irgun were definitively #terrorists – Likud first formed government under former Irgun commander Menachem Begin and his successor was former Lehi commander Yitzhak Shamir – but really the Lehi and Irgun were nowhere near as bad as the IDF.
Is this real? Do they have some sort of explanation?
even the #Irgun only claimed #Palestine and #Jordan
ארץ
ישראל
ח?מובט??ת
It's "Erets Israel (something)"
screenshot source https://youtu.be/UDian5JjSQQ video creator #indie_nile #IndieNile
Is this real? Do they have some sort of explanation? #IDF #greaterisrael
even the #Irgun only claimed Palatine and Jordan
screenshot source https://youtu.be/UDian5JjSQQ video creator #indie_nile #IndieNile
“La lettera che Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt ed altre personalità ebraiche inviarono il 4 dicembre 1948 al NYT per denunciare il fascista Begin e la complicità con le sue azioni terroristiche da parte dei sionisti israeliani”
#Arendt #bandaStern #Begin #Einstein #fascisti #Irgun #Israele #nazisti #Palestina #sionismo #terrorismo
continua @ https://www.antiper.org/2025/03/04/einstein-lettera-nyt-israele-fascista/
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You don't know what #Hamas or #terrorism are, and you seem to be very out of touch with #humanity or you have a very narrow definition of who counts as human?
About 7 countries regard "Hamas" as a terror group. Most of humanity – including many people in those countries, including me – don't regard a doctor connected to Hamas as a terrorists.
It would not be valid to target an Israeli medic for being a member of #Likud (a direct descendant of the #Irgun and #Lehi #terrorist groups) or an #IDF reservist, or even a military medic, because all medics are forbidden as targets, regardless of political affiliation, and even if they are medics in the military.
There is actually nothing wrong with doctors being connected to Gaza government. Somewhere like #ShifaHospital was a government hospital. It's entirely normal and expected for doctors there to be connected to Hamas, that doesn't mean it's a terror facility, that means it's a goddamn public hospital. It was run in cooperation with the PA in Ramallah, but at times Fatah affiliates were discouraged from working there by #Abbas
#Hamas were severely over due for an election, but less over due than Abbas. When Hamas' Change and Reform list won the election, Israel (seemingly determined to maintain their status as the only country who are allowed to have a democracy in the Middle East) declared the entire electoral list a terrorist organization, which included at least one Christian. The Change and Reform Christian won the Christian reserved seat in #GazaCity on the Hamas list. Maybe Americans hate #Hamas for doing #DEI that favours #Christians ?
Also, for a bit of perspective on whether "member of ruling party" says much about a doctor's allegiance or character, Dr Li Wenliang – the infamous COVID whistle-blower – was a member of the #CPC (aka CCP) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-55963896 but strangely, despite claiming to be communist, China has even less public health care than most liberal countries, but that's also another story.
I think the Lehi were less bad than the IDF, bit it's hard to find much detail about them that's not written by them.
From their own point of view the #Lehi and #Irgun sound exactly like the modern Palestinians, the IDF are much worse.
I really wonder how much is coincidence and how much is copied, it looks a lot like Sinwar's been reading "Begin's guide to achieving statehood by terrorism".
Is #HebrewWikipedia projecting? the only other place I've seen this map is the #Irgun logo?
The early #PLO saw Palestine as part of something bigger, but that was Arab nationalism not Palestinian nationalism as such?
Sunday morning, recommended #documentary film.
Before the formation of the Israel Defense Forces in 1948, there were three underground #Zionist #militias - The #Haganah, the #Irgun and the #Lehi.
They differed in tactics and beliefs, and at times fought with each other - but together they terrorised #Palestinian villages and executed attacks and #bombings against the #British to force them to give up control of the land.
They blew up hotels in #Jerusalem, embassies in #Europe and #assassinated a UN mediator.
After #Israel was officiated as a state - the three #terrorist militias would create the #IDF - and their leaders would go on to form Israel’s government, become #politicians, #ambassadors and #PrimeMinisters.
And their dark #history would be forgotten.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCGtHMxNrXY
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