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Checked in on my #globaltalk setup that was working fine yesterday, but this morning is completely borked. Globaltalk Zones disappeared in Chooser and no file servers in local Zones in Chooser on my Mac Plus.

Restarting jrouter, netatalk, tashtalk (in that order) had GlobalTalk zones come back, and while my EtherTalk zone (Vermilion Sands) showed up in Chooser, my LocalTalk zone (Vermilion Sands LT) does not.

Looking at the jrouter and tashtalk logs there are errors which seem to point to a physical layer problem if checksums aren't matching?

Timing is jrouter got an unmarshaling error (15:19), tashtalk then gives a invalid long DDP header (15:21), then jrouter drops stale buffered packets (15:22).

tashtalk:

2025-04-16 16:21:51,014 DEBUG: tap0 failed to parse AppleTalk datagram from EtherTalk frame: invalid long DDP header, checksum is 0xD42F but should be 0xD22
A

jrouter:

jrouter-1 | Apr 16 15:19:50.440 ERR ZIP: Couldn't handle packet device=br0 error="ZIP GetNetInfo Reply unmarshaling unimplemented"
jrouter-1 | Apr 16 15:22:08.728 WRN EtherTalk: dropping stale buffered packets device=br0 dst-net=1971 dst-node=135 drop=1

#localtalk #ethertalk #vintagemacintosh #retrocomputing #jrouter #livelaughlocaltalk

Think I finally cracked using jrouter, tashtalk and netatalk together to work with netatalk and #globaltalkk

- Separate systems for netatalk and tashtalk
- tashtalk and jrouter can be on the same system
- tashtalk and jrouter must use unique MAC addresses
- tashtalk uses tap interface on a network bridge
- jrouter uses network bridge
- netatalk uses network bridge
- netatalk atalkd.conf set to autodiscover on network bridge
- jrouter is a seed router, netatalk and tashtalk are non-seed routers
- Startup order is: jrouter, netatalk, tashtalk, clients

I tried many things to consolidate down to a single RaspberryPi, but even with adding a USB NIC for jrouter/tashtalk and netatalk on the internal NIC things still wouldn't work 100%.

Packets were somehow "eaten", which was odd because the AppleTalk zones would show up in Chooser, but the netatalk file server wouldn't, or when it did it could give an error when trying to connect to it.

#localtalk #livelaughlocaltalk #raspberrypi #retrocomputing #vintagemacs

While everyone I know is talking about the stock market, I'm over here running tcpdumps to capture Appletalk traffic trying to figure out why my netatalk fileserver only sometimes appears in Chooser and then when does why it can't connect the share on my MacPlus with a TashTalk over LocalTalk.

#appletalk #netatalk #macintosh #retrocomputing #localtalk

pushing 90 megabytes over localtalk is it's own kind of fun

#macintosh #retrocomputing #vintagemacintosh #localtalk

Wrote a post on how I setup and use Basilisk II with my Macintosh Plus to share blog posts written in MacWrite over AppleTalk and do other important work like playing Myst.

https://www.ecliptik.com/Live,-Laugh,-Localtalk-with-Basilisk-II/

#macintosh #vintagemac #retrocompuing #localtalk #appletalk #basilisk

EDIT: They have found a home.
#Free to a good home: A bunch of Digital Ocean Grouper wireless LocalTalk networking units. Three 100LT units with four batteries and AC adaptors. Includes manuals, warranty cards, and software on floppies. :apple_inc: 💾 📶
#Macintosh #RetroComputing #VintageComputers #LocalTalk #AppleTalk #Wireless

Some computer hardware and manuals splayed out on a linoleum floor. There are three dark grey rectangular units with small rectangular displays on them, some white wrapped batteries with pigtails, three beige units to clip to the sides of the gray ones, two black AC adaptors and two white boxes the same size as the AC apators. Two coiled cables with mini-DIN connectors are the same gray as the largest units. Below that are some spiral bound manuals with blue covers, four floppies with blue labels, and some black on white quick start cards with diagrams.

A closeup of four batteries with pigtails (they appear to be 4 AA cells wrapped in white), the left side of three of the dark grey units, showing mounts on the sides and the tiny blank displays. There are also some U-shaped mini-DIN connectors and thumb screws in a ziploc bag.

Some spiral bound manuals and a US letter-sized (stapled with rusty staples) manual. With a blue and green cover: Grouper By Digital Ocean The Owner's Manual 100LT. Light blue on white: Wire-Free Networking with Grouper. In blue: Grouper Administrator's Manual. Printed in black on white paper and stapled: Wire-Free Networking With Grouper. And a stained Quick Start Card for the Grouper 100LT. The edges of two floppies and a gray cable can be seen in the corners.

A spiral bound blue-covered Grouper Administrator's Manual next to warranty cards from DIGITAL OCEAN INC in Lenexa Kansas, a stained Quick Start Card with a diagram of the components of the 100LT, four gray floppies with blue labels. Three are Grouper User Suite V2.0.1 and one is Grouper Admin App V1.3.

@arroz 1. Open up chooser. 2. “Command” double click on the share name. A dialog will come up. 3. Type your message, send and it will appear as a dialog on the screen of machine with the share.

It may be “option” instead of “command”.

#globaltalk #appletalk #localtalk

EDIT: All gone!

#Free to a good home: Twenty Farallon PhoneNET Plus transceivers. I'm giving these away in fives, shipped via USPS flat rate. :apple_inc:

#Macintosh #RetroComputing #VintageComputers #Network #LocalTalk #Farallon #PhoneNET #RJ11

Four groups of five Farallon PhoneNET Plus transceivers (small gray boxes with rounded corners, two phone jacks on one side, and a short cable ending in a male mini-DIN connector) on a wood floor. Some are yellowed and the Farallon logotype can be made out through the glare on the shiny plastic.

A closeup of five PhoneNET Plus connectors with a few more in the unfocused background. The phone jacks are visible in the foreground and one transceiver is heavily yellowed. Each one has PhoneNET PLUS Farallon Berkeley, CA Patent pending molded into the plastic.

EDIT: All gone.
#Free to a good home: I have 40 Farallon PhoneNET transceivers. For my own sanity, I'd like to give them away in fives, shipped USPS flat rate. :apple_inc:
#Macintosh #RetroComputing #VintageComputers #Network #LocalTalk #Farallon #PhoneNET #RJ11

Forty PhoneNET transceivers (small gray ridged boxes with a short mini-DIN cable on one end and two phone jacks on the other) arrayed on a wood floor in groups of five. Some are faded or yellowed.

A photo of a USPS flat rate shipping box (white cardboard with blue and red print) next to five groups of five PhoneNET connectors. They are shot from an angle that makes the phone jacks on them clearly visible.

A closeup of a Caucasian hand holding a PhoneNET transceiver to present the phone jacks to the viewer. Four contacts are clearly visible in both of them and the male min-DIN plug can be seen in the background.

EDIT: They have found a home!
#Free to a good home: A pair of LocalTalk transceivers that use a mini-DIN connector instead of a telephone cord. Two transceivers, two cables, and two gender changers. :apple_inc:
#Macintosh #RetroComputing #VintageComputers #Network #LocalTalk #miniDIN

Lying on a wood floor: Two gray cables with mini-DIN connectors on them, each with a gender changer on one end. Two gray plastic boxes, each with a cord coming out of one end ending in a mini-DIN connector. One one of them you can see two mini-DIN ports opposite the cable.

A closeup of a hand holding a LocalTalk transceiver and cable. The female ports on the transceiver are mini-DIN with three pins and a central key. One male end of the cable is visible. The other end is plugged into a gender changer.

A friend and I tried to get #NeitherNet adapters working between an #AppleII GS and a Mac LC III today, and failed. We were able to use a serial cable between the two without issue, however. I need to spend more time with the adapters to make sure they're both 100% correct, but quick ringing seemed OK. Any ideas from those who have used them what the trouble might have been? (We used a straight-through Ethernet cable between them.) #retrocomputing #AppleTalk #LocalTalk

A tiny Mini-DIN connector being soldered to a multi-conductor cable. The Mini-DIN does not have appropriate terminals on the cable side, it has pins rather than solder cups. The connector and cable are being held by a helping hands device. An Apple II GS is visible in the background.

My Mac Plus absolutely refuses to connect to the AppleShare on my TashTalk. Either Chooser throws a "Bad F-line instruction" or Finder gives an "error type 41".

It can see the server in the EtherTalk zone, and prompts for Guest or a user, but bombs out attaching the share.

Tried with extensions off and removing some unnecessary control panels. Share loads just fine on my System 6.0.8 Mac 512ke, so it's something with System 7.

Next steps are to replace Finder and rebuild the desktop ala a suggestion from a publication I found from 1993.

#vintagemacintosh #retrocomputing #macplus #localtalk

Finally figured out how to bridge my LAN properly into Basilik II on my Linux laptop using SheepNet.

Combining with TashTalk I can now use Appleshare to share folders/files directly to my Macintosh 512ke and Macintosh Plus via Localtalk.

No more FTP or serial for me.

#vintagemacintosh #retrocomputing #localtalk #livelaughlocaltalk

Output of getzones and nbplkup on a RaspberryPi terminal

Macintosh 512ke Chooser with tashtalk and Basilisk II file servers in the EtherTalk AppleTalk zone.

Not my best work, but at least they will terminate Phonenet connections and help lessen the errors I was seeing with my Localtalk network.

#vintagemacintosh #retrocomputing #localtalk

Two RJ11 connectors with 120k ohm resistors soldered onto wires 1 and 4.

Successfully got an AppleShare volume on a RaspberryPi mounted on my Macintosh 512ke via TashTalk.

#macintosh #retrocomputing #localtalk #livelaughlocaltalk

I was lead to believe there would be Laughing with LocalTalk. This has not been the case.

#localtalk #macintosh #retrocomputing

Goal for the day is to get LocalTalk and AppleShare working so my Mac Plus can exchange files with a RaspberryPi.

#vintagemacintosh #retrocomputing #macintosh #localtalk