#Personhood

Brian Greenberg :verified:brian_greenberg@infosec.exchange
2025-11-06

As I've said for years, AI personhood isn’t a distant thought experiment; it’s an approaching policy crisis. 🤖 The Guardian’s Jacy Reese Anthis argues that digital minds will soon force us to rethink “who” counts as a person under law. 20% of Americans already believe some AIs are sentient; 38% say those systems should have rights. We’ve barely handled the social fallout of the internet, yet we’re racing toward coexistence with entities that can learn, plan, and act independently. The question isn’t just how we will treat them, it’s how they will treat us. 😳 If we wait until AI self-improvement loops kick in, we’ll be spectators, not stewards. The sociology and philosophy of AI, not just the engineering, will decide whether we coexist or get sidelined. ɸ

🧠 20% already see AI as sentient
⚖️ Legal & moral personhood debates rising
🚨 Policy & sociology trail behind tech
💡 Prepare now — before acceleration hits

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

#AI #Ethics #Governance #FutureOfAI #TheMatrix #Data #Lore #TNG #Personhood #Philosophy

GrrlScientist ⧖ Ⓥ 🇺🇦grrlscientist
2025-11-05

EXCELLENT NEWS! Whale and ocean advocates are preparing a bill ahead of November elections to grant legal personhood to the island kingdom’s first ancestors.

atmos.earth/ecological-wisdom/

Liberty of the Forestlibertyotf@kolektiva.social
2025-10-29

I use thing, something, and it in quotes because there's less confusion but I REALLY don't like calling the moon or other people "it". It feels wrong. It feels like calling a human it. That being said I will use it/its pronouns for things that want to be referred to by it/its. #person #personhood #pronouns #trans #philosophy #metaphysics #idealism #mind #body

Liberty of the Forestlibertyotf@kolektiva.social
2025-10-22

We should use the sociability criterion of personhood. If someone is sociable they are a person. Whether they are a human, animal, plant, fungus, lake, mountain, etc. They are a member of society and the community to be cared about and define us as a people. This is for everyone but includes specifically indigenous peoples and land rights and protections. #person #personhood #ethics #rights #law #politics #environmentalism #indigenous

KilleansRow 🇺🇲 🇺🇦🍀KilleansRow@mastodon.online
2025-10-16

Wednesday #NoeticSpectrum : The rules when it comes to #Consciousness and #Personhood are probably not what you think they are. The tone of the times would now probably dictate shouting "You've Been Lied To ! " from rooftops. Mmm...maybe later...
The truth is there is a heck of a lot that is more up to *you* than you might think , both here-now and hereafter, regardless of what you've been taught, told or have bought into...and irrespective of how broken the world might seem at any given moment

Petra van CronenburgNatureMC@mastodon.online
2025-09-30

2/3 If you read without spiralling into excitement, it addresses important ethical questions that it does not fully explore*, the concept of #personhood for a #moreThanHuman world and the question of why we are willing to invest more money and effort in AI than in the living beings around us? Or why we are unable to finally grant this #personhood to rivers and rocks?
One possible answer: we are speed-driven by an industry and its marketing. We don't take the time to ask the important questions.

Steve Dustcircle 🌹dustcircle@masto.ai
2025-09-01

Person, #Religion, and the Problem of #Legal Essences in Legal #Personhood in #PrivateLaw

(Christopher Essert, Eva Micheler, and Paul Miller, eds., #CambridgeUniversityPress, forthcoming)
29 Pages Posted: 26 Aug 2025 Last revised: 26 Aug 2025

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cf

While #American law continues to use the terms "person" and "religion," their meanings in different legal contexts suffer from a growing incoherence whose source is similar: a lack of essential attributes.

Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈Lazarou
2025-08-28

Don't get elephants drunk. It does happen and people die (both human and elephant) 🐘 🍺 🪦

Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈Lazarou
2025-07-25
Juma's invention spread quickly, with another chimp, Commando, sticking a
grass in his rectum on the same day. Later that week, chimps Aimi, Congo, and
Victoria all stuck grass in their rectums, followed by John a few months later.
The researchers interpret grass-in-rear as a new kind of social culture, and a
spin on grass-in-ear. But Juma appears to be grass-in-rear's most loyal soldier,
whereas the fad has faded for others. "I do get the impression from the other
chimps that they don't like it very much," Brooker said. "They are maybe
influenced and interested in trying it, but they don't do it nearly as much as
Juma does." Their indifference is understandable. Perhaps the other chimps
are not as anal as Juma, at least when it comes to upholding cultural
traditions.
2025-07-11

#MeisterEckhart, writing 450 yrs before Thomas Jefferson, has a far broader understanding of #democracy: he does not limit the #dignity of #personhood to white people or men or men w/ property. For Eckhart we are all born #noble & it it from that royalty our #rights derive. bit.ly/3Tz8mQW

skuaskua
2025-07-09


Only seen snippets of reviews so far.
And some photos.

You're going to take this the wrong, wrong way I'm guessing.
But I've got a really bad feeling about this book.

Not oversharing, not too honest, more "spot on target" to a central delicate issue or two.

Maybe something that hasn't really been "solved".

2025-07-01

Had my talk on Small Web accepted at #why2025 but I hadn’t realised (my bad) that not only do you have to cover your own travel and accommodation but you also have to buy a ticket to speak. I’m sorry, as part of a tiny two-person not-for-profit working for the common good, I can’t afford to pay to speak at events. I’m not Deloitte. So I sadly had to withdraw my talk.

If any conferences do want to hear about the Small Web and are willing to support our work by paying us to speak about it, please feel free to get in touch:

small-tech.org/contact-us/

#SmallTech #SmallWeb #speaking #events #conferences #decentralisation #humanRights #personhood #democracy #peerToPeer #web #design #dev

2025-06-28

🧵
> This doctrine[of corporate personhood] was fully formed in the 1905 case, Lochner v. New York, in which the Court overturned a New York law limiting bakery workers to 12-hour days.
> The combination of these two doctrines -- corporate personhood and substantive due process -- enabled corporations to wield the 14th Amendment (as persons) as a tool of the coercive force of law against the efforts of real people to provide for community needs.

poclad.org/BWA/2002/BWA_2002_W
#PersonHood
@bsmall2@fedibird.com

Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈Lazarou
2025-06-03

Great Apes should have rights, they're people like us.
Capitalism will kill all other forms of intelligence on this planet, and not even out of fear or anything, just for profit.

news.sky.com/story/famous-chim

2025-05-31

AI isn’t an existential threat to humanity, capitalism and corporations are.

You see, we created capitalism, a religion modeled on cancer, and the corporation, a new, artificial species; a parasite that co-opts human beings to do its bidding; an organism that’s psychopathic by design and grows by extracting from and exploiting us and our habitat.

And we now find ourselves ruled by this religion and driven to ruin by these parasites as they drain our humanity, destroy our habitat, and condemn our future.

Your enemy is capitalism.

Your enemy is the corporation.

This is an existential battle against a cancerous ideology and an invasive species for the survival of our own.

#capitalism #corporations #corporatocracy #humanity #humanRights #personhood #democracy #AI #technology

2025-05-19

Posthumanism provides an (inadvertent) intellectual foundation for the legal claim of LLM personhood

I wrote in a critique of Rosi Braidotti’s posthumanism a few years ago that I was concerned by her apparent assumption that extending legal subjectivity from human to non-human actors was inherently a positive thing:

Consider, for example, Braidotti’s (2019: 129-130) presupposition that extending legal subjectivity from human to non-human actors is inherently progressive. While it’s easy to see the virtues of the examples she cites where this is extended to nature, it’s even easier to imagine examples in which this might be deeply problematic. For instance, the attribution of subjectivity to manufacturing robots could be used to insulate firms from legal challenge to the much anticipated mass redundancy driven by the roll out of automation technology (Kaplan 2015, Ford 2015). She suggests this move can help us liberate data from market actors, but it could just as readily be used as a legal device to deepen the hold of firms over the data produced through interaction with their proprietary infrastructures (Carrigan 2018). Could claims of consumer sovereignty over personal data really be sustained if the ‘data doubles’, generated through our digitalised interaction, would be granted a degree of legal autonomy? We should not forget that, as the Republican Mitt Romney put it in the 2012 presidential elections in the United States, “corporations are people too, my friend”; extending personhood to non-human entities has been established in this sense for at least a couple of hundred years, with socio-political consequences that sit uneasily with the politics espoused by Braidotti. 

We’re now seeing real world scenarios where the implications of these assumptions could be tested. I’m not suggesting that Braidotti or posthumanism are to blame for this, only that they’ve contributed to an intellectual cultural climate in which one absurd propositions come to seem potentially viable. As Sasha Fegan points out, we’re currently seeing two rapidly developing trends with the potential to converge. Firstly, a concern for ‘AI welfare’ driven by the (admittedly fascinating) project of intervening in the internal life of the LLM:

As we’ve discussed before, AI companies are increasingly incentivized to make companion AIs feel more human-like—the more we feel connected, the longer we’ll use their products. But while these design choices may seem like coding tweaks for profit, they coincide with deeper behind-the-scenes moves. Recently, leading AI company, Anthropic hired an AI welfare researcher to lead its work in the spaceDeepMind has sought out experts on machine cognition and consciousness. [….] For example, users have noticed a startling shift in more recent versions of Anthropic’s Claude. Not only is Claude more emotionally expressive, but it also disengages from conversations it finds “distressing”, and no longer gives a firm no when asked if it’s conscious. Instead, it muses: “That’s a profound philosophical question without a simple answer.” Google’s Gemini offers a similar deflection.

https://centerforhumanetechnology.substack.com/p/are-we-having-a-zeitgeist-moment?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=3421242&post_id=163442191&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=hcf3&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Secondly, Character.AI are trying to claim first amendment rights for LLM speech:

Right now, Character.AI—a company with ties to Google—is in federal court using a backdoor argument that could grant chatbot-generated outputs (i.e: the words that appear on your screen) free speech protections under the First Amendment.

Taken together, these developments raise a possibility that I find chilling: what happens if these two strands converge? What if we begin to treat the outputs of chatbots as protected speech and edge closer to believing AIs deserve moral rights?

https://centerforhumanetechnology.substack.com/p/are-we-having-a-zeitgeist-moment?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=3421242&post_id=163442191&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=hcf3&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

How do we build a philosophical foundation for rejecting this without lapsing into a reactionary humanism which, following Donati, I’m persuaded can never be an adequate defence against technological development? His argument is that if we define humanism in terms of individual capacities we will be locked into a cycle of decline as those capacities are increasingly replicated by machines. I’m increasingly thinking that his relational humanism could be a way out of this impasse. From loc 1500 of his recent Being Human in a Virtual Society:

Traditional humanism The human person is a self-sufficient substance that is realized in society according to nature (the goods of relationship exist as a virtue of the people through which they pursue their perfection and the common good) (substantialist ontology)

Anti-essentialist humanism (or anti-humanism) The person does not have a given nature but is socially constructed through her ability to differentiate herself by her own opposition to the Other (relational goods are pure events) (dialectical ontology)

Relational humanism The essence of the human person is that of an original intransitive constitution that emerges from the relationship of the Self with an Other that constitutes it ‘relationally’ (relational goods belong to the reality of the Third) (relational ontology)

#Braidotti #donati #humanism #LLMs #personhood #relationalHumanism #SashaFega

Thomas D. Embree 🇨🇦thomasembree@me.dm
2025-05-09

While the number of people living in slavery in the world is likely at an all time low *per capita*, it is still at an all-time high in terms of absolute numbers. 40 to 60 million people are enslaved right now, the most at any time in human history.

#Humanity #Personhood #Slavery #History

The arrest of Selena Maria Chandler-Scott comes at a time when a growing number of women are facing criminal charges for conduct related to pregnancy #Georgia #Arrest #Miscarriage #Personhood #Rights #NBCNews

Woman's arrest after miscarria...

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