#Seattle2025

2025-05-07

This is still not my circus…

But I’ve been watching this year’s Worldcon drama unfold. Seattle used ChatGPT to vet program participants, based on three widely excoriated updates/apologies. Three folks on the WSFS/Hugo side of the convention (i.e. not the division that used ChatGPT) resigned. A number of program participants withdrew; so did a Lodestar nominee. Given the nature of convention drama, I expect we haven’t heard the end of Seattle shenanigans.

I think it’s interesting that Seattle seems shocked by the backlash it’s struggling to handle.1 There has been a lot of discussion about so-called AI within the writing community over the past couple years; it started even sooner among artists. While some of this discussion happens behind closed doors (e.g. members-only online spaces), it’s also been news in the genre and non-genre press. This is, in short, a big issue for many of the convention’s prospective participants and members.

This is not the only instance of a disconnect between convention runners and a segment of fandom (broadly defined). Codes of conduct may help, but there’s a long history of conventions being unwelcoming or dangerous; problems including sexual harassment and racist exclusion persist. The main difference with this particular misstep is that Seattle acted against the interests of a subset of fandom that the convention cannot easily afford to abandon. While conrunners may not feel the lack of potential Black members who never register (a far more fundamental and troubling issue, IMHO, than Seattle’s ChatGPT use), they will feel the lack of industry professionals. Marketing a convention involves participant names. Convention programming relies upon the donated time and effort of panelists and moderators. Seattle has unwittingly illustrated the need for conventions to decide who they are for, and to understand the priorities of those constituencies.

  1. While I don’t think Seattle has handled this well at all, I do appreciate that they have not thrown individual volunteers under the bus. This is an institutional failure and Seattle Worldcon 2025 absolutely deserves to be ratioed. Maybe there should be additional resignations and a more complete report for transparency purposes, but nothing would be served by adding volunteer names to this week’s firestorm. ↩︎

#Ai #ai #chatgpt #hugoAward #seattle2025 #worldcon

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skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard:skribe@aus.social
2025-05-07

Seattle Worldcon 2025 Tells How ChatGPT Was Used in Panelist Selection Process - file770.com/seattle-worldcon-2

#WorldCon #Seattle2025 #ScienceFiction #Fantasy #Hugos #ChatGPT

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2025-05-06
skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard:skribe@aus.social
2025-04-13

In his OpEd, Gary Westfahl asks for the next two WorldCon's (in Seattle and LA) to be cancelled because of the actions of the COTUS administration - file770.com/no-more-worldcons-

Should the WorldCon be removed from the US?

#SFandF #WorldCon #Seattle2025 #LA2026

2025-03-08

It looks like I'm not attending Worldcon in person this year after all. I'm interested in transferring my adult attending membership to someone in exchange for a $125+ donation to a trans rights charity or similar.

Message me if you're interested, and so I can confirm the charity isn't secretly bad or something

#worldcon #seattle2025

2025-02-27

Episode 129 is here, in which we discuss the Belfast Eastercon, Alison shakes her cane at John and Liz, and we talk a little about WSFS things before getting into picks. Listen here: octothorpe.podbean.com/e/129-d

#ScienceFiction #Podcast #Eastercon #Eastercon2025 #Eastercon2026 #BSFA #Worldcon #Seattle2025 #Worldcon2025

Words read “Octothorpe 129: Can you pin Thailand on the map?” above a black-and-white world map. The backs of John, Alison and Liz’s heads are shown. John is thinking “Yup!”, Liz is thinking “100%”, and Alison is holding Thailand and thinking “???”.
2025-01-16

Episode 126 is here! We read out your letters of comment, and then we discuss all the things from 2024 that we think are worth a look as we go into award nomination season (and a couple of things we would probably avoid). Then we do picks, in case there weren't enough opinions.

Listen here! octothorpe.podbean.com/e/126-i

#ScienceFiction #Podcast #HugoAwards #Seattle2025 #Worldcon

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2025-01-07

Lovely visit to Bloedel Reserve.
#seattle2025

2024-12-20

Octothorpe 125 is belatedly here! We read some letters of comment, we discuss the Seattle online Business Meeting plan and also the news from Smofcon 41, and Liz tells us what the objectively correct best Christmas movie is.

Listen here! octothorpe.podbean.com/e/125-i

#ScienceFiction #Podcast #Worldcon #Seattle2025 #Smofcon #Smofcon41 #MuppetChristmasCarol

John wears an Octothorpe Christmas jumper and a green and red hat with elf ears, Alison wears a red Christmas jumper and a moose/reindeer hat, and Liz wears a blue jumper and a Christmas tree hat. The words “Octothorpe 125” appear at the top in a Christmassy font that looks like it has snow on the letters.
2024-11-21

In this episode, we don’t have any letters of comment but we do have discussion of the Belfast Eastercon, Reconnect, as well as musings on online convention Back to Our Futures and upcoming Worldcons and Eurocons. Plus, Liz read a book.

Listen here! octothorpe.podbean.com/e/123-i

#ScienceFiction #Podcast #Worldcon #Seattle2025 #Archipelacon2 #Eurocon #Eastercon #Eastercon2025 #BelfastEastercon

A coffee stain on a piece of paper on which are written the words “Octothorpe 123” and “fully caffineated”.
2024-08-13

End of Worldcon! Bittersweet, because it was amazing but I’m looking forward very much to the coming week.

Looking forward to #Seattle2025 and #LA2026 – follow @seattlein2025 for the latter!

#Worldcon #HugoAwards #Glasgow2024

Trish E. MatsonTrishEM@newsie.social
2024-08-12

Wow, #Seattle2025 #WorldCon will present a special Poetry Award! So cool! That's the con where my friend from @skiffyandfanty and other things, @therisingtithes , will be the Poet Laureate, so it's really exciting that they'll be having a poetry award there to someone, too!
(Announced at the Closing Ceremony for #Glasgow2024 WorldCon.)
#HugoAwards2025
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