@lebout2canap @silvermoon82 If a #TrackPoint instead would be acceptable (cuz a #TrackPad may eat up a lot of estate compared to it), consider i.e. #DIY'ing with a #Sprintek #FlexPoint:

https://www.sprintek.com/en/products/pointing_stick/SK8707-01.aspx

@kobilacroix @katja I use a #ThinkPad-style #Trackpoint integrated in the 65% #Keyboard but since #Lenovo #enshittified that, #TEX is selling good alternatives...

• You could OFC source the mechanism from #Sprintek and use it as a #USB mouse or DIY something similar to the #Razer #Orbweaver with a #Keypad.

And yes, I'm mad the KU-1255 was discontinued for a 3x expensive version just so Lenovo doesn't have to offer a wired version and a bluetooth version.

• But the efficiency gains of using a Trackpoint are measureable

If you can, try a trackpoint espechally when you're more typing than mousing...

@radmin @tera @critakitty yeah, @frameworkcomputer refusing to make a #TrackPoint keyboard is kinda sad.

• Cuz it's not as if they can't make a call at #Sprintek and maybe even get a custom-coloured rubber cap just to avoid #Lenovo claiming they violate the #UltraNav design / trademark.

Not to mention this isn't unique to even #ThinkPad or #hp #ProBook or #Dell #Latitude & #Getac devices, but even #Sony (#Vaio #P11Z) and #GPD did so...

• I hope they at least got a holder-hole and lanyard loop option for the #Stylus like the #X230Tablet has...

@ustralien So yeah I am sad that @frameworkcomputer didn't work out a deal with like #Sprintek to get a #Trackpoint into the #FrameworkLaptop and I'm pissed that #Lenovo discontinued their #ThinkPad #TrackPoint Keyboard for a new and #enshittified version that cost double the price of the #Bluetooth and triple the #wired version before and is #WirelessOnly aka. can't even be used via #USB without a shitty #dongle, making it basically impossible for me to use.

• So I've got to build the #NUCbook with a #CHONKY Keyboard to have an #UltraNav-Style Trackpoint!

Needless to say I'd still see #Framework & #Fairphone as the only options on the market right now if I had to buy stuff that is available right now!

@qlp Given they modularized the #Framework 16 and they could reimplement that for the 13" frame.

• Nothing prevents @frameworkcomputer from getting that made by #Sprintek or any other company.

In fact Sprintek sells trackpoint modules seperately and one could make a matching module that sticks out of a slot as you suggested.

• Tho the main reason to use a #Trackpoint os to keep the hands on the keys and reduce arm movement for mouse use.

@qlp personally, I wished @frameworkcomputer would give #SprinTek a call and get themselves some #TrackPoint instead of the #TrackPad as an option.

• IDK maybe make it green or pink so neither #Lenovo (red) nor #hp (black) nor #Dell (blue) nor #Getac (orange) nor #Sony (gray) can complain.

They can't call it #UltraNav either but what about #SmolNav or #ProNav or something.

• Worst-case they'd have to make a "T H I C C" Edition with a #Perixx #Trackball instead.

#Trackpoints #Trackballs

@claudius personally, I wished @frameworkcomputer had partnered with #Sprintek to deliver basically the #ThinkPad Keyboard with #UltraNav-Style #Trackpoint because I do use that all the time!

@frameworkcomputer #UltraNav-Style #Trackpoint - when?

I'm shure the folks at #Sprintek can build it...

@tecoholic The big disadvantage besides soldered-down RAM is that the #IdeaPad series is even worse in #quality with some boards having so little support that they crack through the mainboard!

• #Lenovo really nosedived in #quality and sadly they also #enshittified #ThinkPads too, so it's not as if the $1k premium is giving you a better experience...

Personally, I just need my #UltraNav-style #PointingStick and I'd never want a computer without it.

• Yes I am the kind of weirdo who even uses it on a #desktop and I'll likely have to buy something expensive from TEX because #Lenovo canceled the Compact Keyboard with UltraNav and #enshittified it to the point that I'm so close calling a meeting with #Perixx and #Sprintek and ask them to build a successor board...

@frumble gibt mehrere Gründe:

• #Trackpoint > #Touchpad (besonders der #UltraNav!)
• Ich hasse #drahtlos-Zeugs!
• #MagicTrackpad hat nicht tauschbaren #Akku, lässt sich nur drahtlos nutzen und nutzt nen #LightningConnector!
• Ich hab kein Platz dafür...
• zu teuer...
• #Apple ist #AntiRepair und das will ich bicht durch Umsatz fördern!

Wenn überhaupt würd' ich nen #Unicomp #Performa, #ModelM13 oder nen #TexShinobi kaufen weil #Lenovo hat die kabelgebundene Version des "Compact Keyboard with UltraNav" eingestampft und durch eine 3x so teure dahtlos-only - Variante ersetzt die keinen Vorteil gegenüber der vorherigen hat.

• Ich hab schon fast alle #Trackpoint - Keyboards von #Sprintek die im Auftrag von #IBM bzw. #Lenovo als USB-Geräte gefertigt wurden...

@Natanox @wyatt8740 @ChrSt @tauon @ika @frameworkcomputer Which is kinda sad given that @fuchsiii managed to find the manufacturer who does all those #Trackpoint|s and #Keyboards for #Lenovo, #Dell & #hp: #Sprintek...
https://www.sprintek.com/en/products/NotebookKeyboard.aspx

And they offer said #Tranckpoint assemblies themselves:
https://www.sprintek.com/en/products/pointing_stick/SK8707-06.aspx
https://www.sprintek.com/en/products/pointing_stick/SK8707-51.aspx

In fact, I got myself one of these Trackpoint "Dev Kits"...
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BFFTDSK4

@clementd #ThinkPad Compact Keyboard with #UltraNav (#USB)...

Sadly discontinued but still available new old stock...

Otherwise you can buy the #Trackpoint mechanisms from #Sprintek and they'll identify as a USB-Mouse...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ya4dUZfTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjEWuk1nig

And yes, I think that the @frameworkcomputer could use a #TrackPoint like the #UltraNav...

Seriously, #Framework: Give #Sprintek a call and ask them to build you a #ThinkPad-Style #Keyboard with Trackpoint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sw06swtgY0

@xoagray and since #Lenovo stopped making #ThinkPad #CompactKeyboard|s with #wired #USB and I need a new #Keyboard for the #NUCbook anyway, I guess I've to get in contact with #Sprintek and get some #SK8707-06 - #FlexPoint™ PS/2 Pointing Stick Mouse Modules...
https://www.sprintek.com/en/products/pointing_stick/SK8707-06.aspx

@mia which reminds me that I need to DIY a real 100% Keyboard [aka. 122+ keys] with Trackpoint & Mouzse Buttons...

Thanks to @fuchsiii I know the supplier for the #TrackPoint|s of #ThinkPad|s:

#Sprintek
https://www.sprintek.com/en/products/PointingStick.aspx

@bnys pretty shure it's easier to obtain than #Sprintek's #Trackpoint|s...
https://www.sprintek.com/en/products/pointing_stick/SK8707-06.aspx