@em_7dice +9001%

The only issues I had on #Linux fit on one hand and are solely the manufacturers being dicks:

• Intel #GMA500 &

• Intel GMA3xx0 aka. #Poulsbo / #US15W

• #AMD pre-#FLOSS'd drivers and old #ATi cards that need them.

• #Nvidia being dicks and not offering feature-parity for their #GPU #drivers acrss platforms as well as actively working against FLOSS #driver #developers...

• #Fibocom #850GL aka. #Intel #XMM7360 and neither of them nor #Lenovo willing to #support that #WWAM module on an "#UbuntuCertified", €3k+ #ThinkPad #P15v #Workstation #Laptop running #Ubuntu 20.04 LTS!

@fedora Sadly, #Lenovo wronged me as a professional when they refused to support their "#UbuntuCertified" #ThinkPad #P15v's #WWAN module ( #Fibocom #850GL, based on #Intel's #XMM7360 baseband).

• And that was a €3,5k+ professional device!

Add to that the discontinuation of any #wired - #USB "ThinkPad Compact Keyboard with #UltraNav" and the only reason I've not retired my #X230Tablet for a @frameworkcomputer / #Framework13 or god forbid some #DIY abomination is my belief in #UseLonger!

@rl_dane I wished @frameworkcomputer would do this too, because #Lenovo has #enshittified the #ThinkPad brand so hard and refused to support me with a #P15v (alongside #Canonical #Intel & #Fibocom with regards to getting the #850GL / #XMM7360-based #WWAN working on this €3,5k+ "#UbuntuCertified" System) that I'm gonna go with a #Framework once my #X230Tablet dies.

@knoppix95 this is nothing new.

#Lenovo almost always offered around €125 discount for "no operating system" and €100 for #UbuntuLTS over #Windows - if they offer any of those options at all…

• Not to mention Lenovo, #Dell & #hp actually get paid $25 by #Microsoft for any #Windows #preinstall since at least 2012 in return for not shipping #Linux on said devices!

What is a problem is that Lenovo doesn't actually #Support even "#Ubuntu #certified" devices like the #P15v and it's #Intel #XMM7360-based #WWAN chip, the #Fibocom #850GL, at all, and they refuse to provide #drivers for it!

@simonzerafa I mean obviously #reuse / #UseLonger is better and if your options are "corporate surplus" or nothing then I'd never judge.

To me it's just that #ThinkPad as a brand has really died as every single Device is a #downgrade in #repairability & #upgradeability compared to my #X230Tablet:

• They have #SolderedDownRAM even on P-Series #Workstation machines, not just cheap cheap #Lenovo consoomer devices.

• Batteries ain't toolfree-swappable anymore!

• #WWAN modules are worse (i.e. #Fibocom #850GL aka. #Intel #XMM7360)

• #Linux support gets worse and neither Lenovo nor @ubuntu feel responsible on a "#Ubuntu-certified Workstation" (i.e. #P15v)

• Less & Worse #Docking options.

• Most machines don't offer Linux or to eveb to opt-out of #Govware noone should pay their overcharged premium for (in fact #Microsoft pays Lenovo $25 for every #Windows #preinstall so they don't ship Linux, they don't even pay the $10 for an #OEM-#UEFI-Key, much less the $135+ of a #SystemBuilder version they charge for!)

• ...

Personally, I wish I had €.€€€.€€€ so I could just develop the #NUCbook and be done with the #Enshittification of #Laptops / #Notebooks!

@phoronix I'm still mad that #Intel refuses to fix the #GMA500 & #GMA3**0 drivers.

• Yes I know it's a #PowerVR SGX and no IDGAF about any excuses: They stickered their name on top of it = they're to be blamed!

Same with the #XMM7360...

#plzfix #Linux #drivers

@krutonium @darth +1

Until they do that, I #WontBuy any new device from them.

• #EoL is not a valid reason to let them off the hook for anything!

And yes, I'm still #mad at #Intel for the #GMA500 fuckup and at #Fibocom, #Lenovo and #Intel for the #XMM7360 / #850GL shitshow and at #nvidia for their bs...

• I don't forgive nor forget; at least not towards #corporations who didn't even try to say sorry in the most #PR-speak - esque fashion...

@CppGuy @frameworkcomputer In terms if #avoid I'd sadly say #Lenovo (espechally outside the #ThinkPad line) and any cheap/craptastic no-name brand...

Tho personally, Lenovo, #Intel, #Fibocom and @ubuntu / #Canonical ruined my experience with the ThinkPad #P15v because despite being "#UbuntuCertified" the #WWAN module (an Intel #XMM7360 rebadged as Fibocom #850GL) didn't work and neither of the aformentioned parties felt responsible to fix it!

• And thanks to #PCIe - #AllowListing of #WWAN cards I couldn't just plop a known working M.2 card in there, but that applies also to #hp, #Dell and any other "Business Notebook"...

@fuchsiii @walsonde FIBOCOM GL830...

Die #GL850 ist ein verkorkstes #Intel #XMM7360 was noch schlechter unter #Linux funzt als der #GMA500-Chipsatz!

Weder #Lenovo noch #Fibocom noch #Intel fühlen sich zuständig dieses Drecksteil zu fixen.

Ich persönlich würde einfach ne Sierra Wireless MC7700 oder was anderes reinstopfen wenn nicht nen shice #AllowListing bei den #ThinkPad|s der Standard wäre...

Leider hat @frameworkcomputer nich kein Mainboard mit zusätzlichem M.2 A+E bzw. B-Key - Slot für #LTE bzw. #5G-Modems samt #SIM-Slot im Angebot...

Sonst könnte mensch einfach nen #Quectel #RM500Q-GL draufknatschen, auch wenn die €300 fürnen 5G-Modem happig sind [Danke #Qualcomm, ihr Gierschlunde!]

@stanford yeah, that's what I know for like a decade...

Also it's not a simple #VendorLock but a #Whitelist of PCI-IDs, MAC Adress- and IMEI Number Ranges, so it's not enough to have i.e. a #Lenovo-rebranded #Fibocom #850GL which is a rebadged #Intel #XMM7360, but only the version offered for i.e. the #ThinkPad #P15v will be accepted and initialized.

https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/111431218976786632

@stdevel @bradlinder that is sadly not the truth anymore.

Despite being "#UbuntuCertified" absolute basics like the #WWAN module didn't wotk at all on a work issued #ThinkPad #P15v.
Neither them nor #Canonical nor #Fibocom (#850GL WWAN Card) nor #Intel (#XMM7360 is the chipset of said card) felt responsible to fix it.

Not gonna talk about #nvidia being shitty again on that occasion...

@whitekiba Klar - nur boten die jenes Produkt damit an...

Nicht dass ich nicht so oder so Support erwarte wenn Hardware als "Certified for #Ubuntu" gelistet ist...
@ubuntu

Hab' mich ja schon zur #Fibocom #850GL / #Intel #XMM7360 in nem #Thinkpad #P15v auf :birdsite: :twitter: ausgekotzt und wie Weder Fibocom noch Intel noch Lenovo sich zuständig fühlten...

Und wegen Lenovo kann ich nicht einfach das WWAN-Modem durch was gescheites tauschen, weil Whitelisting der PCI-ID...

@malcircuit Yeah, #Debian is masochist distro in that regard.

I explicitly chose #Ubuntu LTS 20.04 because the device was officially supported.

Still I'll stay mad for the refusal of #Lenovo, #Fibocom & #Intel to provide drivers for the integrated #WWAN modem:

Fibocom #850GL - which is just a rebadged Intel #XMM7360...

Because I know drivers for it exist - just like Intel refusing to release the Driver for the #GMA500 aka. #ImaginationTech PowerVR SGX GPU known als #Poulsbo...