"I mean this insight has belonged to our culture too. I think many of you will be familiar with the Joe Hills song āYouāll get pie in the sky when you dieā, and there is a certain style of American religion; I call it the Billy Graham style. I donāt dislike Billy, but it is notable that Billy Graham, you know, plays golf with the Pharaoh. I mean thatās not like Moses leading his people out of bondage, I mean, Moses didnāt play golf with the Pharaoh"
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