Satellite #Hackers Bible on #usenet newsgroups:
- #alt.2600
- #alt.2600.madrid
- #es.comp.hackers

@2600
@hispagatos
#satellite #radio #hacking #netnews #2600

When fixing moderator mail addresses, I just learned that I have been administrating a Usenet server for ~30 years now; been moderating nl.* groups for ~25 years and have been hierarchy admin for 18 years. #usenet #netnews #oldfart

Netnews: The Origin Story: Steve Bellovin's paper about the beginning of Usenet
https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/papers/netnews-hist.pdf
#socialmedia #internet #netnews #history #usenet #+

Zeilenumbruch nach 72 Zeichen, »-- « als Signaturtrenner und Thread-Darstellung. Alles im Usenet gelernt. #damals #technikgeschichte #usenet #netnews

I don't know how useful it really is, but the automated account @frpnewsnet gives updates on the newest #ttrpg-related #usenet / #netnews posts (as seen on https://campaignwiki.org/news ).

It specifically (hopefully) posts updates on the rec.games.frp.* and the campaignwiki.* hierarchies.

🌘 探討網路歷史：從 Netnews 看社交網路的起源
➤ Netnews：從歷史看社交網路的崛起
✤ https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/papers/netnews-hist.pdf
Netnews（有時被稱為Usenet）被認為是最早的社交網路之一，對線上互動有重大影響，誕生了“垃圾郵件”、“鬧版”和“火爆”等俚語含義。 該技術首次推廣了許多現在被視為理所當然的技術，包括Linux、World Wide Web和圖形瀏覽器。然而，儘管取得成功，Netnews最終式微，因為人們轉向更具用戶友好性的形式找到所需的內容和溝通途徑。
+ 讓人回味起早期網路的發展歷程，對於現今社交網路的演變有更多瞭解。
+ 技術的發展速度令人驚嘆，這樣的回顧讓人感慨科技的變遷。
#網路歷史 #Netnews

@publicvoit I'd say netnews' approach to multiple conversations is quite good. Probably goes in hand with careful use of Subject: changes and with a client whose UI shows threading in a usable way.

Meanwhile, Mastodon doesn't show proper threading in the official UI and could also make at least subthreads directly accessible from feeds (hey, if it's so heavy in order to be dynamic, why not do this while at it?)

#Usenet #NetNews #Mastodon

@mms format is similar, distribution is different. Some months ago, or maybe it was last year, someone wrote (or linked) a paper on the (early?) history of USENET that made the rounds in the fediverse.

I don't have the reference handy, though. Hopefully someone else has.
#USENET #netnews

@aks I'd even say that *and netnews*, but I'm probably biased as a long-time Gwene user :-P

(still, I'd say the fediverse is a good way to get additional information about some topics - but that's not the same as a news outlet. I frequently get things about fipol here on Mastodon, along with posts about a few tech articles, and it's also how I first learned of CVE-2024-3094)

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#Gwene #netnews #RSS

@rek2 @Killab33z_OG @matt I still feel that Mastodon would gain a lot with a client designed like a #NetNews client, with as much deduplication as possible, and with read v. unread flags. But I tend to treat #Mastodon as something to read from begin thru end, which might not be what the official UIs (or maybe even the server-side software) were built for...

(I haven't tried #lemmy so far.)

@charadon @davidrevoy So it will join irc.mozilla.org and news.mozilla.org...

Yes, remember when Mozilla still had their own IRC server and their own NetNews service (this one hosted by Giganews)?

(Speaking of irc.mozilla.org, anyone knows what happened with http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/? Is it available under a different domain?)

#Mozilla #IRC #NetNews

@doerk USENET is still active. There are some free servers around, some of which require registration, others don't.

To name a few, Motzarella/Eternal-September[1], news.neodome.net, Solani[2].

Also see [3] for some groups to check, to which I'd add the comp.unix.* subtree.

[1] http://www.eternal-september.org/
[2] https://solani.org/
[3] https://mastodon.scot/@CGM/112702185132813893

#NetNews #USENET

@job this is one of the major issues I have with some Mastodon interfaces. #Brutaldon does this too, I think, but at least it's light. Now #MastodonWebUI doing this with all the processing power it requires is ludicrous.

Yeah, I'm eventually going to end up with a Mastodon client that is pretty much a #NetNews client...

@unknown231 @mms I don't see how the existence of a specific kind of client interface addresses this. One benefit would really be to be able to plug any #NetNews client, not just graphical ones.

@rolltime meanwhile, #IRC, #NetNews and #Email ask "what was that? did you hear that? no? oh well." and just carry on :-P

To: @CGM
Cc: @mms

Is this overall activity in the groups or specifically activity via your front-end? (Just wondering; I never visited most of the groups in that list, so I might look into some of them! :-) )

#USENET #NetNews

@uliwitness Nothing wrong about being text-based, or nothing non-modern about it. But there *are* GUI clients and isn't #GopherVR also a thing?

One of the strengths about systems such as #Gopher, #NetNews and #IRC is that they're interface-agnostic, you can have a 3D gopher client or a comic-strip IRC client, even if other clients are designed to work nicely in a #terminal or terminal emulator.

@unknown231 @DrHyde @yayroos Not sure it matters for the original question, but, yes, really, there are a lot of people using #USENET, several groups are active.

#NetNews

@nicholas_saunders @ChrisWere @zeruch There might be people who complain about the lack of emojis, stickers, image, video support in #IRC.

Even if that should be possible in IRC (especially client-side embedding of images and other media), and emojis might just need UCS support, I still think the not so heavy use of these is a *benefit* of IRC.

But, given the route e.g. Discord takes, the major benefit of IRC is being an open protocol where you can use any compatible client. Same for #NetNews.