#valueflows

2025-02-23

the cycles these #valueFlows form will naturally appear after sustained activity regardless of any attempt to do so. The same way your dollar goes into some rich person's pocket … and eventually back into a pay check (okay so it's not a great example because of bottlenecks to the "velocity of money"), also, the simple awareness of concurrent needs, potential fulfillment of those needs, and thriving cycles of value flows, is enough to make the economy work without any sums or balances!

2024-11-11

Are there personal / small community org applications of #operationsResearch? :moomin_hmm:
Something that keeps popping into my mind is: #Cybersyn but #OCAP .
I guess #valueflows is kind of like this? But that's just a vocabulary.
(No, cryptocurrencies are not what I'm looking for.)

2024-10-27

Best @OSEGermany, this seems relevant to your work:

link.springer.com/chapter/10.1

"Implementing a Digital Product Passport to Support the Open-Source Hardware Community", by Denis Roio, Adam Burns & Stefano Bocconi.

#valueflows #rea #opensource #hardware #supplychain #provenance

2024-07-27

In 2017, I wrote a brief history of the fediverse;

web.archive.org/web/2019061722

... which mentioned the ValueFlows vocabulary. I had a feeling the two would eventually intersect. #TIL about an FEP that uses the VF vocabulary to make a federated marketplace possible;

codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src

#ValueFlows #FEP #MarketPlace

2024-05-26

Posting an informal video of initial progress on an app for the Carbon Farm Network, a textile supply chain network in the NY Hudson Valley. Uses Holochain, hREA, Valueflows.

youtube.com/watch?v=aVUUGcGyeF (31 minutes)

So far, we have offers, requests, planning from recipe for the season, starting into recording economic events against the plan and coordinating through the season. Much much more to do!

#valueflows #holochain #floss #coop

2024-05-15
2023-10-05
2023-07-16

2/2

#ValueFlows (VF) built into AP that service physical economy will need to map the physical terrain to the instance terrain in some way. Apples, pies, and sharing trucks need physical proximity.

A ValueFlows Story about Pies

valueflo.ws/assets/ValueFlows-

2023-07-07

Thinking about #TownSquare, #activitypub (AP), #mastodon, #ValueFlows (VF), and getting from current #predatorycapitalism to where?

One vision of "where" comes from a book titled "Ecotopia" by Ernest Callenbach originally published in 1975. It describes the SF Bay Area, specifically Redwood City, 25 years after Calif., Ore., and Wash., split from the US to create an ecologically sustainable society. Here's the wiki link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecotopia

Of course, there's also the vision of KSR in "The Ministry for the Future" (TMFTF) with a bit of an earlier view of the messy transition out of the extractive economy. One critique of the KSR book comes from here: currentaffairs.org/2021/01/the, which asks: "Who governs the many financial transactions that are supposed to take place on “YourLock?”" Where #YourLock correlates to some flavor of AP.

AP has a goal of using VF to enable the economic activity described in both books' view of where to go. Here's a story: valueflo.ws/assets/ValueFlows-

This is scratching around ideas.

2023-06-28

@jerry

Is figuring out how to integrate #ValueFlows (VF) into instances using #ActivityPub on the #Fediverse development list somewhere?

You are definitely well-connected to the underpinnings of the Fediverse and probably know about planned direction.

Are there plans to make funding all the pieces of the Fediverse (bw, hw, sw, labor) more automatic and integrated into the signup?

I give funds to 2 instances, an infosec person, and ValueFlows dev for a total of $40.35/mo. PayPal and Patreon were easy to set up. It was really hard to figure out how to fund what I think is a critical piece of ensuring longevity of the Fedi-- distributing funds within. The #Bonfire instance gave me the link to VF. Really knowledgeable, involved people are working on VF. I'm not a Dev, but docs there look like it could serve Fedi fund distribution. hrea.io/

Are there other plans for making funding better integrated into the Fedi? IMO, systematic financing is the weakest link to a sustainable Fediverse.

2023-06-27

@mastodonmigration @loshmi
2/3

Spent my first few days around here trying to figure out a fair share "#subscription". Very few provide an idea of how much would help. sfba.social said about $1000/mo in cost to sustain service (excluding labor). Set up my $10.35/mo for ecosystem infrastructure there.

Knowing an ecosystem needs an immune system, decided to Patreon an infosec person on fedia.io at $10/mo.

An ecosystem also needs a way to move the energy source around the system. Spent some time trying to find where that might be in the #Fediverse. Patreon, Kofi and et al. seem to be the most prominent means at the moment. Found #Bonfire whose protocol includes the #ValueFlows vocabulary. AFAIK, this is closest to an energy transport system for the Fediverse. Maybe there are other vocabularies for creating a circulatory system in the Fediverse.

forum.holochain.org/ seems to be where deployments of ValueFlows are being worked (moved to #discord). Exploring more before setting up a subscription.

Ed: 2/3

David Potocnikdcht00@social.coop
2023-06-20

#Economics:
Anyone in my network interested to study & discuss #valueflows , especially from a communist perspective?
valueflo.ws/

I've been trying for a while to dive into this, but think I'll need somebody to go along for the ride :-)

2023-04-29

I'm right now imaging an ActivityPub service, where you buy a share of a cow, and then get to track what happens with the milk and how you profit from it. Where the cow can take selfies and send them to her shareholders. Where you can monitor your cow's health and if she is going to calve. You should also be able to monitor if she is eating alright, and possibly buy her a watermelon as a treat.

2023-04-29

Any social media protocol should clearly explain how to sell milk with it. Luckily, the people at Valueflows are figuring it for ActivityPub see fep-d767.

Unfortunately, the Valueflows folk talk about butchering cows. 😭

pospi 🏳️‍⚧️pospi@hachyderm.io
2023-04-05

@anders @atomicpoet my hope is that in part these tools will create the social and economic networks of the future. Friends of mine at bonfirenetworks.org/ are building one such tool!
#Bonfire #ActivityPub #Fediverse #Valueflows

pospi 🏳️‍⚧️pospi@hachyderm.io
2023-02-06

@api this is an excellent enumeration & explanation of different ideologies that are driving #protocol / #standards work.
I am curious where you would place domain models like #Valueflows in all this. I think we do pretty well at community building and having use-cases drive the spec. But there is also something worth exploring about domain models in general- those are places where a lot of effort has already gone into useful (pragmatic) abstraction. valueflo.ws/

2023-01-05

@50htz
Thanks for the mention.

> @bhaugen is front man for #ValueFlows, a vocabulary for modeling economic exchange.

I'm the one who hangs out in Fedi the most, but @lynnfoster is the maintainer and gets the credit..

And we focus it more on economic collaboration, altho it handles exchange as well. This is what it was designed for: write.as/economic-networks/coo

@ntnsndr @gingerrroot @CaribenxMarciaX @bonfire @spritelyinst

2023-01-05

@ntnsndr
1. There are hash tags used to signal admins - #FediBlockMeta and (#)FediBlock. These were started by @gingerrroot and @CaribenxMarciaX and there's some interest in making a website

2. @bhaugen is front man for #ValueFlows, a vocabulary for modeling economic exchange. @bonfire is an AP implementation committed to bringing ideas like that to the Fedi. @spritelyinst is a project targeted towards making Fedi a safer place, a prerequisite for operating games and hosting financial transactions

3. I've seen people here being quite, umm, 'explicit' about the types of markets not tolerated on Fedi. It could be more clear, though, which markets are supported. That is to say, we want people to be able to market their own labor but not labor that's been stolen by capital. Damn. Still emphasizing the negative

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