Oliver Maksimović

Earning a living with #PHP since 2005. In love with modernizing legacy codebases, excited by mission critical features.

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Fabio Manganiellofabio@manganiello.social
2025-06-07

Why Bell Labs worked so well, and could innovate so much, while today’s innovation, in spite of the huge private funding, goes in hype-and-fizzle cycles that leave relatively little behind, is a question I’ve been asking myself a lot in the past years.

And I think that the author of this article has hit the nail on its head on most of the reasons - but he didn’t take the last step in identifying the root cause.

What Bell Labs achieved within a few decades is probably unprecedented in human history:

  • They employed folks like Nyquist and Shannon, who laid the foundations of modern information theory and electronic engineering while they were employees at Bell.

  • They discovered the first evidence of the black hole at the center of our galaxy in the 1930s while analyzing static noise on shortwave transmissions.

  • They developed in 1937 the first speech codec and the first speech synthesizer.

  • They developed the photovoltaic cell in the 1940, and the first solar cell in the 1950s.

  • They built the first transistor in 1947.

  • They built the first large-scale electronic computers (from Model I in 1939 to Model VI in 1949).

  • They employed Karnaugh in the 1950s, who worked on the Karnaugh maps that we still study in engineering while he was an employee at Bell.

  • They contributed in 1956 (together with AT&T and the British and Canadian telephone companies) to the first transatlantic communications cable.

  • They developed the first electronic musics program in 1957.

  • They employed Kernighan, Thompson and Ritchie, who created UNIX and the C programming language while they were Bell employees.

And then their rate of innovation suddenly fizzled out after the 1980s.

I often hear that Bell could do what they did because they had plenty of funding. But I don’t think that’s the main reason. The author rightly points out that Google, Microsoft and Apple have already made much more profit than Bell has ever seen in its entire history. Yet, despite being awash with money, none of them has been as impactful as Bell. Nowadays those companies don’t even innovate much besides providing you with a new version of Android, of Windows or the iPhone every now and then. And they jump on the next hype wagon (social media, AR/VR, Blockchain, AI…) just to deliver half-baked products that (especially in Google’s case) are abandoned as soon as the hype bubble bursts.

Let alone singlehandedly spear innovation that can revolutionize an entire industry, let alone make groundbreaking discoveries that engineers will still study a century later.

So what was Bell’s recipe that Google and Apple, despite having much more money and talented people, can’t replicate? And what killed that magic?

Well, first of all Bell and Kelly had an innate talent in spotting the “geekiest” among us. They would often recruit from pools of enthusiasts that had built their own home-made radio transmitters for fun, rather than recruiting from the top business schools, or among those who can solve some very abstract and very standardized HackerRank problems.

And they knew how to manage those people. According to Kelly’s golden rule:

How do you manage genius? You don’t

Bell specifically recruited people that had that strange urge of tinkering and solving big problems, they were given their lab and all the funding that they needed, and they could work in peace. Often it took years before Kelly asked them how their work was progressing.

Compare it to a Ph.D today who needs to struggle for funding, needs to produce papers that get accepted in conferences, regardless of their level of quality, and must spend much more time on paperwork than on actual research.

Or to an engineer in a big tech company that has to provide daily updates about their progress, has to survive the next round of layoffs, has to go through endless loops of compliance, permissions and corporate bureaucracy in order to get anything done, has their performance evaluated every 3 months, and doesn’t even have control on what gets shipped - that control has been taken away from engineers and given to PMs and MBA folks.

Compare that way of working with today’s backlogs, metrics, micromanaging and struggle for a dignified salary or a stable job.

We can’t have the new Nyquist, Shannon or Ritchie today simply because, in science and engineering, we’ve moved all the controls away from the passionate technical folks that care about the long-term impact of their work, and handed them to greedy business folks who only care about short-term returns for their investors.

So we ended up with a culture that feels like talent must be managed, even micromanaged, otherwise talented people will start slacking off and spending their days on TikTok.

But, as Kelly eloquently put it:

“What stops a gifted mind from just slacking off?” is the wrong question to ask. The right question is, “Why would you expect information theory from someone who needs a babysitter?”

Or, as Peter Higgs (the Higgs boson guy) put it:

It’s difficult to imagine how I would ever have enough peace and quiet in the present sort of climate to do what I did in 1964… Today I wouldn’t get an academic job. It’s as simple as that. I don’t think I would be regarded as productive enough.

Or, as Shannon himself put it:

I’ve always pursued my interests without much regard for final value or value to the world. I’ve spent lots of time on totally useless things.

So basically the most brilliant minds of the 20th century would be considered lazy slackers today and be put on a PIP because they don’t deliver enough code or write enough papers.

So the article is spot on in identifying why Bell could invent, within a few years, all it did, while Apple, despite having much more money, hasn’t really done anything new in the past decade. MBAs, deadlines, pseudo-objective metrics and short-termism killed scientific inquiry and engineering ingenuity.

But the author doesn’t go one step further and identify the root cause.

It correctly spots the business and organizational issues that exist in managing talent today, but it doesn’t go deeper into their economic roots.

You see, MBA graduates and CEOs didn’t destroy the spirit of scientific and engineering ingenuity spurred by the Industrial Revolution just because they’re evil. I mean, there’s a higher chance for someone who has climbed the whole corporate ladder to be a sociopath than there is for someone you randomly picked from the street, but not to the point where they would willingly tame and screw the most talented minds of their generation, and squeeze them into a Jira board or a metric that looks at the number of commits, out of pure sadism.

They did so because the financial incentives have drastically changed from the times of Bells Labs.

The Bells Labs were basically publicly funded. AT&T operated the telephone lines in the US, paid by everyone who used telephones, and they reinvested a 1% tax into R&D (the Bells Labs). And nobody expected a single dime of profits to come out from the Bells Labs.

And btw, R&D was real R&D with no strings attached at the time. In theory also my employer does R&D today - but we just ended up treating whatever narrow iterative feature requested by whatever random PM as “research and development”. It’s not like scientists have much freedom in what to research or engineers have much freedom in what to develop. R&D programs have mostly just become a way for large businesses to squeeze more money out of taxpayers, put it in their pockets, and not feel any moral obligation of contributing to anything other than their shareholders’ accounts.

And at the time the idea of people paying taxes, so talented people in their country could focus on inventing the computer, the Internet or putting someone on the moon, without the pressure of VCs asking for their dividends, or PMs asking them to migrate everything to another cloud infrastructure by next week, or to a new shiny framework that they’ve just heard in a conference, wasn’t seen as a socialist dystopia. It was before the neoliberal sociopaths of the Chicago school screwed up everything.

The America that invested into the Bell Labs and into the Apollo project was very different from today’s America. It knew that it was the government’s job to foster innovation and to create an environment where genuinely smart people could do great things without external pressure. That America hadn’t yet been infected by the perverse idea that the government should always be small, that it’s not the government’s job to make people’s lives better, and that it was the job of privately funded ventures seeking short-term returns to fund moonshots.

And, since nobody was expecting a dime back from Bell, nobody would put deadlines on talented people, nobody hired unqualified and arrogant business specialists to micromanage them, nobody would put them on a performance improvement plan if they were often late at their daily standups or didn’t commit enough lines of code in the previous quarter. So they had time to focus on how to solve some of the most complex problems that humans ever faced.

So they could invent the transistor, the programming infrastructure still used to this day, and lay the foundations of what engineers study today.

The most brilliant minds of our age don’t have this luxury. So they can’t revolutionarize our world like those in the 20th century did.

Somebody else sets their priorities and their deadlines.

They can’t think of moonshots because they’re forced to work on the next mobile app riding the next wave of hype that their investors want to release to market so they can get even richer.

They have to worry about companies trying to replace them with AI bots and business managers wanting to release products themselves by “vibe coding”, just to ask those smart people to clean up the mess they’ve done, just like babies who are incapable of cleaning up the food they’ve spilled on the floor.

They are seen as a cost, not as a resource. Kelly used to call himself a “patron” rather than a “manager”, and he trusted his employees, while today’s managers and investors mostly see their engineering resources as squishy blobs of flesh standing between their ambitious ideas and their money, and they can’t wait to replace them with robots that just fullfill all of their wishes.

Tech has become all about monetization nowadays and nothing about ingenuity.

As a result, there are way more brilliant minds (and way more money) in our age going towards solving the “convince people to click on this link” problem rather than solving the climate problem, for example.

Then of course they can’t invent the next transistor, or bring the next breakthrough in information theory.

Then of course all you get, after one year of the most brilliant minds of our generation working at the richest company that has ever existed, is just a new iPhone.

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Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2025-05-31

One of the projects I'm working on is really huge (1m LoC) and it confuses AI the most, it's literally unbearable to keep it on. But, even in codebases that are young and really robust, free from magic and whatnot, AI still often tries to do impossible things or invents solutions that have so subtle bugs that pass code reviews from me and another senior developers.

I literally can't understand how anyone can push such code to production and sleep peacefully 🧐

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2025-05-31

Do you use an AI helper while you code? In my own experience, it's a zero sum game at best. Sometimes it helps, and sometimes it spits out pure junk (or wants to spit and I need to prevent it from doing so).

The flavor of AI doesn't matter much. I ended up turning everything off again, because all they do needs to be carefully reviewed _always_. It's like having a teammate whose actual skills are not clear, so you're never able to have confidence in what they do.

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2025-05-31

I still work there and my career path in the company has been unaffected by that unfortunate event. I doubt that it would've been the case if I tried to blame others, e.g. for not noticing the lack of profit being made for almost a year 😄 (Later I did make tools to ensure that such a thing never happens again, though)

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2025-05-31

@Albright Definitely the right way. Several years ago my mistake cost the company around $350k (it's a huge fintech business). It was the profit not made, not the actual loss of money, but still... After chasing the problem down and fixing it quickly, I wrote a post mortem email, being 100% honest. Later I got the email from the CEO himself, thanking me and tapping me on the back. I truly expected being in debt for a decade or something like that, or at least receiving a dismissal letter.

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ignace nyamagana buteranyamsprod@phpc.social
2025-05-31

My older brother once told me if you don't congratulate yourself no one will. So in summary the total download of all my #PHP packages has now surpassed the 500 millions lead by league/uri and league/csv 🎉🎉🎉🎉 and the best part of it is that I never actively made any marketing of any of those packages which hopefully speaks volume about their usefulness

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2025-03-06

@brendt merger. reading the code is easier because it's literally written in words, instead of dots and brackets

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2025-01-13

@ilijastuden kasnim na sopstveni parti 🏃🏼‍♂️ hvala!

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Sean Coatessean@scoat.es
2024-12-17

LinkedIn's notifications settings are a nightmarish maze. 3+ layers deep and dozens of clicks to turn things off.

Don't be this product person. It might boost your numbers, but you're measuring rage wrong.

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Rob Stylesrobstyles
2024-12-02

If you like tailwind, you'd love CSS…

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2024-11-29

@nyamsprod there are systems that are huge, complex, bound to endless bureaucracy procedures when it comes to upgrading anything related to them, so getting them up to date is always a long and tedious process. If you don't have a strong reason to drop the support for some version of PHP, then don't rush it. Those who maintain such systems will be grateful for every package that doesn't need to be upgraded at the same time as runtime.

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2024-11-29

@maccath No, I don't have DH. Can't find the papers from my doc, and I can't remember which type of dermatitis I've got, but I know it's not DH. Seems like that is a direct manifestation of celiac. Did you seek another doc for a different opinion?

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2024-11-25

@maccath Elidel keeps me sane at night. Seems that it has the same name in UK. Have you tried it? I initially used a combination of antifungal creams, then gradually switched to Elidel.

In my case it was unbearable 24/7, but nights were... nightmares.

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2024-11-16

@Shoty Apple silicon chip with as much ram as you can get, but no less than 16. Probably skip the Air macbooks.

My daily driver is an M1 Pro with 16G, with microservices hell often running 20+ docker containers, and it's all smooth.

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2024-11-13

@ilijastuden Everyone's everywhere, like you said. I don't think there's one single place for stuff like that. Twitter most likely has the best reach, despite the controversies, boycotts and all.

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2024-11-13

@ilijastuden I hate the fact that, despite having many physical buttons around the infotainment screen & on the steering wheel, most of the things are impossible to do except by touching the screen (tucson '19).

No idea which car will be next, but I know for sure that it won't be one of those that have just one "long tablet" for everything. I suffer enough this way anyway 😄

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2024-11-13

@ilijastuden

I had almost the same "rig" (including the 105E monitor), except that mine had Cyrix M II 300 CPU, which actually ran at 233MHz (but was "rated" as 300), and I had no dedicated graphics card. That's probably the main contributing factor to my career path - it could barely run any games available at the time.

Windows ME on that PC was the most stable Windows I've used. Everyone hated it for some reason, but on my PC it's been perfect.

P.S. you've got a typo for RAM 😄

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Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2024-10-27

They have one guy (known as "doctor"), who picks up his huge hammer, then walks around the factory, near the pipes, listening carefully. Then, once he hears that specific sound he's been looking for, he swings the hammer and hits the pipe with full force. Job done, the clog has just been eliminated successfully. That guy is irreplaceable.

Oliver Maksimovićoliver@phpc.social
2024-10-27

@mcc Reminds me of a friend of mine who worked on improving some automation processes in a fertilizer factory (aka decreasing the need for human workers). Even if everything becomes automated at some point, there is one thing that cant really be done by a machine. From time to time it happens that some of the many many pipes carrying ingredients get clogged. Of course it's not an option to tear everything apart to find where's the clog. 1/2

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