@marioguzman @nate actually I turned it off now so I don’t forget. This is far worse than the iOS 7 update. At least they still cared about screen space and didn’t prioritize concentric nonsense designers

@marioguzman @nate I think this might be the first OS I turn off automatic updates for. No way in hell I’m installing this on my iPhone 13 mini.

@stephaniewalter #visionOS is so well done. The team behind it did an amazing job making something new but familiar.

People who look at it think it's to blame for the whole #liquidGlass debacle because they notice the transparency.

But comparing them closely, visionOS is really legible. Content remains separated from controls except for a slight overlap with the bottom toolbar. Everything is supremely frosted. Brining in harmony with your environment wile allowing legible content.

@marioguzman I seriously had to do a double take to find where the music controls went.

I mean, just compare Music under Sequoia and Music in Tahoe. One is clearly easier to read than the other one. It is also far less distracting. I can tell you it isn't Music under Tahoe.

Who designed this and legit thought "This is so much better and people will have a far better time using it!!!"?

I’ve been an iTunes user since 1.0 under Mac OS 9.x. This is the biggest UX regression in its entire 24 year history. Sigh. 😔

To me, the perfect folding phone would be something like this.

It'd have to have two folds. When fully folded it'd be essentially iPhone mini dimensions and aspect ratio. When unfolded it'd be a 4:3 aspect iPad with about 8" diagonal.

This is the best of both worlds. Small easy one-handed use. Nice aspect tablet for sketching and watching movies.

If they did this with at least two good cameras, good battery life, and somehow solved water and dust ingress I'd be sold no matter the price.

I'm an iPhone mini person. Feels like a really nice width and manageable height.

All current foldables seem to suck from my viewpoint. They are big phones when folded and then awkward aspect ratios unfolded.

I was really hoping for something that was iPhone mini size or slightly smaller but then had more space occasionally when opened.

At least with this chubby phone concept you have a wide phone but it's short enough to still reach a lot of things and when opened it's a close to iPad ratio.

The #iphone fold rumors are pretty weird.

Latest has the inner display as 7.58" diagonal & 1.45:1 aspect ratio. I made a web app to play with different sizes and ratios.

https://codepen.io/kaplag/full/ogXaxLB

Based on this, with assuming some amount of the width is hinge, the folded screen would be about as wide as an iPhone 16 plus. But short. Gives Chubby iPod nano vibes (if you know you know).

Mockup of it between an iPhone 13 mini and 16 plus for scale.

https://9to5mac.com/2025/06/26/new-iphone-fold-leak-details-display-size-cameras-and-more/

#apple #tech

@siracusa I physically feel ill looking at Tahoe. I wish that was an exaggeration but something about it is so unpleasant. It feels all over the place.

I like Sequoia a whole lot. I think most balanced and cohesive. Yosemite maybe would be next pick.

@ellenich I figured information density was only an issue of input accuracy. Eyes are not steady. Neither are fingers held out in the air with nothing supporting them or to press against.

I see that as a pretty limiting factor in this platform progressing past a fancy smart TV.

I don’t think physical peripherals are the best answer but I’m not even sure better hardware sensors would help. Maybe predictive models get better? Maybe we need added nueral data to augment eye data?

From using #AppleVisionPro I really don't think display density is something I'd prioritize. #visionOS rendered graphics are very clear... when they are in the middle of your view.

What I would care more about is a wider field of view, improved passthrough quality (especially low light), and maybe improved optical lenses (less glare/wider FOV).

Unless Samsung makes up for the smaller displays with better lenses I think they are making a mistake.

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/25/samsung-headset-better-displays-than-vision-pro/

#XR #AR #samsung

@daringfireball Basically, unless we don't agree that the left is a Mac and the right is a human, I'd argue the right side has always been on top, and that's even clear by the drop shadow on the face introduced when they got rid of the extended lines in 2014.

And maybe it looks weird on the new icon that the human head is disembodied... but so is the original Mac icon. They are both abstract representations of the same thing conceptually to me.

Either way it's fine to not like it visually.

@daringfireball "the right side (the face in profile) looks like something stuck on top of a blue face tile. That’s not the Finder logo."

Isn't it an abstract depiction of a happy Mac screen being looked at by a happy human user isn't it?

Logically the human head would be on top. The original icon visually cued this in with the human's profile lines continuing out of the Mac shape.

Mac screens aren't tiny anymore. The new icon depicts the whole happy head in front of a larger happy Mac. No?

@zeldman Agree... I actually like VisionOS... I think it's cool how apps aren't a boring white and take on the color of the "environment" but visionOS also has a lot more contrast and frosted glass. All the glass effects were done on the outermost edges of apps which helps them stand out from the background but doesn't conflict with app content. Just so odd how they had something I thought worked well and was a little different but then they went off the deep end with the glass concept ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@metaverse “it's a little odd to see the company keep calm and carry on without addressing anything about its lackluster user base.”

It’s funny how people don’t connect the dots. Making a product better by adding and improving features is doing something to address the lack luster user base. For most people, what AVP does doesn’t match its price. Apple can bring price down by cutting quality, making a worse product, or they could keep adding features to make it worth the price.

@minimalnerd rather distractingly so. Feels like something designers mocked up and they didn’t prototype in code. Would be obvious what an issue it is.

@nicoreese @jglypt Yea, scrollable was my initial thought. On a touch device a horizontal scroll wouldn't be too bad. They could also put an arrow icon that triggers the scroll when a mouse is detected.

@daringfireball glad to see the pre-announcements turn around. I wonder if that was in response to leakers though? Them wanting to get ahead of the rumors and control the narrative even if the feature wasn’t ready. Regardless I prefer this way.

@jamesoloughlin @atpfm yea, displays won’t get worse. This is baseline. This display will get cheaper. A new model will get an even better display. Apple splits a product line when they can go up from there. They rarely introduce products that are a step backwards from a benchmark they already hit.

@atpfm AVP simulator did not support 4K before. Now it does. Apple is advertising a new feature–Not foreshadowing a worse product.

https://developer.apple.com/visionos/whats-new/

Imagine Apple releasing a new iPhone that’s not Retina just to hit a price point 🤔

AVPs issue is value. Lowering the price to meet precieved value is one solution. Apple generally increases value. AVP needs to get better in every way for many years before splitting the line makes sense. Old models will hit lower prices in the mean time.