@manawyrm
Out of interest, what do you find bad about Rocket Chat?
@xahteiwi

@defanor This does exactly what you describe, and I believe it is in active use (in case you worry about the last commit being some years ago): https://git.sr.ht/~singpolyma/cheogram-muc-bridge

Prosody 13.0.0 is here! Farewell Zero-ver!
This major release brings a number of exciting new features, including improved security, performance, and administration tools.
Check it out: https://blog.prosody.im/prosody-13.0.0-released/
#prosody #xmpp

@moreentropy
Thankfully there are many of us working on improving XMPP's shortcomings without introducing Matrix-style complexity 😉

@2something As someone familiar with the XMPP Standards Foundation, I can explain this one 🙂

The answer is rather simple... it's not "finished" yet.

Most clients are on an earlier version of the XEP (0.3.x).

The crypto is 99% the same, but some other things were changed to make the protocol better, more efficient, etc. We need more implementations of the latest version before it can be moved on to "Stable", which is the next stage for XEPs.

@tfb My totally biased (*I'm developer of both projects) would be Prosody or Snikket.

Prefer Snikket if you want a zero-configuration batteries-included setup for friends-and-family purposes.

Choose Prosody if you'd prefer to tweak and customize your XMPP setup, and you either know a bit about XMPP/sysadmin or are happy to learn along the way.

@sam This behaviour is certainly stupid, but JMP has other routes which don't have this weird policy. Have you investigated those? The JMP support team can move your number across if you ask them.

@lpryszcz
My family and I are using @snikket_im successfully every day (it's based on XMPP)

I started the project because I wanted to move them off WhatsApp and wanted to avoid centralized services. They took to it well.

Proud to have it on F-Droid! :fdroid: @fdroidorg

@debacle
I'm in public channels with over 1000 users, works fine for me. But yes, there are optimizations, and more are planned (this was the main topic of the sprint in the UK recently, and I'm trying to get a more formal presentation together in time for the summit in a few weeks...).
@daniel @robertmx

@BenDoubleU
https://search.jabber.network/ should be helpful to find your initial communities. From there I'm sure you'll make contacts.

Maybe see you around 🙂
@uexo

@tpikonen This is great! I was planning to work on something like this, but built on https://slidge.im by @nicoco

That would make it a really smooth integration with #XMPP and using any XMPP app to communicate via #Meshtastic could feel very natural 🙂

@kobilacroix
Also https://joinjabber.org has a good (re)intro.

For a self-hosted (free) or hosted (paid) option, there is also @snikket_im (a project I started to make it easier for people to get started with XMPP). Depends what kind of thing you're looking for.
@andyy

@vel
Ignore this - we don't need your help on these particular tasks 😅

Guaranteed XMPP has all these features already, just not in one place 🙃
@contrapunctus

@in0rdr
Yes, basically. You should find an example in the default config file (also for http_file_share which is the next thing people ask about).

@daniel
I wonder if this is related to the bandwidth/power optimizations that XMPP clients/servers support (e.g. CSI) or just general app bloat.
@masoud

@debacle
Yes, Conversations (and derivatives) support automatically cleaning out your old messages (Settings->Security).
@Theeo123 @daniel

@asier
I recently had the same itch. I like photography, but the phone doesn't cut it. It beats the impracticality of carrying a large camera everywhere, but lacks in many ways.

Looked at a range of compact cameras, but I ended up with a Sony RX100 M3, and don't regret it as something I can slip easily into a pocket/bag. Zoom isn't tremendous compared to what I'm used to, but it's good enough and I still have my old camera if I need it for something specific.

@ratcatcher
Quicksy does audio and video calls, but not (currently) group calls.
@neil

@whynothugo
We can agree to disagree on that point. After all, it is a view I held myself for over a decade 🙂

I realised most people don't even know how email works, yet use it every day. They just use what's there.

I'm pretty sure I've got more people using XMPP in the past few years (including finally my own family) than in the many years previous.

But more than one approach is needed. Protocol education is still valuable, even if it isn't quite as effective in directly converting people.

@whynothugo
There is already an email client on every OS these days, and that makes a big difference. People need to actively install a chat app (generally - iMessage and RCS do exist), and more effort and guidance is required to gain adoption.