@GhostOnTheHalfShell @strypey @SheriSwears @Tooden @401matthall @mcnado
Before Caesar was #Catiline: https://inaniludibrio.com/2024/10/24/catiline-was-wicked/
When the Roman Republic was in its final century, civil wars were common, and so were proscriptions.
Words mean things.
I don’t make the rules.
@thomas_klopf @BlippyTheWonderSlug
A successful #Catiline
@soc_i_ety
#Catiline won.
We’re in the timeline where #Catiline and #ThirdRome #theology win.
To be frank, as a #history nerd, it’s like living in Rome 89-90 CE.
Or the post-Spartacus years a century earlier.
https://inaniludibrio.com/2024/05/19/if-you-can-keep-it-from-caesar-and-catiline/
#American #Enlightenment #republicanism #culture #fediverse #Caesar #Catiline
#Catiline Was Wicked
The Catilinarian Conspiracy of 63 BCE was a symptom of #dysfunction in the late #Roman Republic. It foreshadowed the rise of Roman imperialism.
Instability & Corruption
The conspiracy emerged in a climate of intense rivalry and public corruption that was dominating the political atmosphere of the late #Republic.
@benroyce @DarkMatterZine @StefanThinks @Diamondjoy
The #American #Catiline still lives.
@tsturm @MichaelEMann @matthewrozsa @Salon
The #American Founders were obsessed with #Catiline, and that’s what we are dealing with now, as we’ve repressed memories of patriotic #virtues.
Caveat: Anything that references #Catiline and the Catilinarian conspiracy is •automatically• at least 5/10 for me and can only go up from there.
The #history nerds out there will note that not only did Julius Caesar also load himself with debt to fund the army which he would use to incite an insurrection against the Republic, but the #American founders of the #Enlightenment valued #virtue above all and viewed #Caesar (and #Catiline) as wicked usurpers of their nations.
Just sayin’ 🤷🏻♂️
https://mastodon.social/@McSpocky/113200977706500910
The #American #Catiline lives and wants to hold a triumph.
Catiline was wicked.
#CivilReligion #history
https://beige.party/@RickiTarr/113017383564160585
The Dramatic Contrast of Biden’s Last Act https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/joe-biden-speech-cincinnatus/679229/?utm_source=feed #JoeBiden #uspoli #USElections2024 #trump #Cincinnatus #Catiline #USDemocracyUnderThreat
The Founding Fathers held both #Catiline and #Caesar in deep contempt.
Anybody telling you otherwise is probably a fascist, reactionary, or mendacious fuck.
https://mastodon.social/@jmcrookston/111189165504941371
@paninid Examples such as yours are ones that I believe are productive and useful. Comparative history is important and insightful, when done right (which is why warnings from the Founders are so important). I've been seeing a lot more *248 years is really close to 250* #discourse which is based on Glubb's #pseudohistory which distracts from the rich comparisons of #Catiline and #Caesar
@endofmeaning
The Founders repeatedly referred to the vices of #Catiline and Caesar.