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VeganPizza69 β“‹β’Άveganpizza69@veganism.social
2023-12-28

Vegan vs Carnivore: Who Kills More Animals? youtube.com/watch?v=-Vk-5OifIk

by @debugyourbrain

#vegan #carnivore #cropDeaths #grassFed #meatBased #cows #fieldAnimals

@debugyourbrain , you should mention "pasture deaths" next time.

ex. lighthoof.com/blogs/blog/manag

and, i general: thewildlifenews.com/2022/06/21

Grazing, in general, is hostile to:

- carnivores
- herbivores
- various others animals

In essence, the ranchers/herders are trying to do the same thing as monocrops; favor one species to the detriment of others. Monocows...? Monoruminants? Monoherds. I like this one, #monoherding (I know that some herds are mixed, but it's still mostly one species).

Add to this the deaths from diseases, which they don't like to talk about. All those zoonoses, they don't just affect humans, wild animals are constantly getting diseases from these herds. Of course, the herders blame them for diseases and use it as a justification to kill more wild animals.

And the plant diversity ain't doing better. If we want to talk about butterflies πŸ¦‹ for example, they lose. Most pastoralism relies on grasslands with dominant grasses, and grasses have boring flowers without nectar. Those meadows with lots of pretty flowers? Yeah, those are "marginal grasslands" that suck for grazing. They're usually some type of low-fertility grassland, which is important to the plant biodiversity. The lack of ruminants there means that legume species are there, they often have great flowers for insects, and they favor other flowering species that are not grasses; think of various asters, for example. These pretty flowering plants 🌻🌼🌸🌺 get a bunch of nutrients thanks to the ecosystem being low in nutrients and having a small nutrient (nitrogen) stream coming from legumes. The best grasses for pasturing are enemies of these, the grasses desired by ranchers/herders are big, juicy, chonky, and dominant - that's why they need more fertilizer ("improved grasslands" or lots of legumes), which leads to lower biodiversity, and lower pretty flowers for pollinators.

You should also learn the difference between NATURAL grasslands and semi-natural grasslands. There are a lot of man-made grasslands, such as those made after deforestation or lots of fire or draining swamps... these semi-natural ones are basically perennial crops, you described them in the video. I'm just clarifying that natural grasslands are not that common and they're not implicitly great for pasture.

The πŸ”₯ is pretty important. I'm glad that you mentioned it. Essentially, setting grasslands on fire (and woodlands and savannas) is a type of low-tech agricultural operation. There are actually agricultural machines that are large flame-throwers, usually used to kill weeds with precision.

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