#workforfree

💧🌏 Greg CocksGregCocks@techhub.social
2025-05-13

Not that I have any creative skills like a baker, musician, wedding planner, etc - but I guess I now know kind of what it is like to be asked to work for FREE 'for the exposure'

(At least it wasn't by an 'influencer' or the like... 🤣 🤪 )

To paraphrase the NewSpeak in the email: "Help us pitch to the possible client on your own time, we might get back to you if we get some work, and you MIGHT then be selected... but no promises of course..." 😁 😛

They would also seem to be inaccurately representing their technical expertise to their potential client as well, under the guise they would say - I am sure - of 'staffing up'...

[note that I am NOT currently looking for work, this just turned up in my In Box...]

#recruiting #baitandswitch #workforfree #getexposure #unsavoury #jobssearches #exploitive #takingadvantage

2024-02-20

Well, THAT was a thing.

No "Thank you's" will be had in this environment. That would just cheapen the volunteer experience.

Or something.

#WorkForFree #PaidWhatYoureWorth #ExploitVolunteers
#WhySayThanks

Monarkie 🎹🎤pwn_toney@cc.pwntoney.com
2023-10-28

Between Bandcamp getting put in the shell game and Spotify just deciding to NOT pay you, I STG I will just go back to 2005 and build downloads into my own website. We really just can't have ANY money...just make shit for free and smile... FFS

#Spotify #Royalties #WorkForFree #MoneyForTheeButNotForMe

2023-04-14

It's Free Labor Friday!!! 🎉 🍾 #WorkForFree #Exposure #NoMoneyNoProblems

:promoted: Promoted by your boss

2023-03-27

Adobe has sent me a survey - with a chance to win a gift certificate;

I don’t mind helping with their research, but if you read the contest rules, only residents of Ireland are eligible;

I am so tired of companies pulling shit like this;

no Adobe, I won’t bother, until you take your long time users seriously;

#long_time_user
#adobe
##workforfree

diyphotography (unofficial)diyphotography@ծմակուտ.հայ
2022-04-19
diyphotography (unofficial)diyphotography@ծմակուտ.հայ
2022-04-18
petapixel (unofficial)petapixel@ծմակուտ.հայ
2021-09-02

Everyone Says Don’t Work For Free, But I Ignored Them and It Paid Off

So you’ve gotten pretty good at photography. Now what? If you’re like a lot of people, the idea of turning this creative outlet into a career might sound like an enticing next step. Many of us struggle with how to get started though. It is especially challenging for genres like landscape and travel photography where there isn’t always a straightforward business model to replicate.

How do you get that first client? How do you get your foot in the door and start to break into this competitive industry?

It’s a bit of a catch-22, right? If companies only want to hire experienced photographers (which makes sense from their point of view), how do you get that first little bit of professional experience to show them? Should we just do some work for free and then try to leverage that into paid work in the future?

That logic always seemed pretty reasonable to me—not much different than an unpaid internship in college—but there are a lot of other, more experienced, photographers out there who are constantly saying:

" Don’t work for free! It undervalues the industry, you should be paid for your time, and once a company sees you as the free person they’re never going to pay you for future projects down the line."

And I heard that sentiment enough times that I honestly felt a bit stuck. I knew my work was good enough to start doing some paid jobs, but I didn’t really know how to pitch commercial project ideas without having done some client work in the past.

But while I was down exploring around Northern Arizona on an extended photography road trip this spring, I decided that at the very least I would send emails to some of the tourism boards in the area to see if they needed any photography work done. It was short notice, so I didn’t really even expect to get any responses back, but I didn’t have much to lose other than an afternoon spent on the computer instead of out shooting.

I sent short pitches to Visit Arizona, Visit Page, and Visit Sedona. The first two never got back to me, but Visit Sedona actually did. And they said something like (paraphrasing):

Thanks for your message. We’ve already allocated our budget for the year, but let us know if you get any cool photos while you’re down here and we’d love to feature them on our Instagram page.

Okay, well not really what I was looking for, but hey, at least they responded. Maybe we could go from there.

So I thought about it for a few minutes and realized: okay, they don’t have any money for photo work right now, but that’s really not what I’m looking for in the short term. I have a day job; I can pay the bills. What I really want, is 1) the experience of working on assignment for a travel client, and 2) the ability to be able to say that I’ve done that before. To be able to say “I’ve worked with clients like Visit Sedona” in future pitches.

But perhaps we could come up with an arrangement where we accomplish all of that and they still get some photos that they can use. It just won’t be a paid gig.

Basically an unpaid internship, even if just for a few days.

So I replied back and said essentially that. Probably terrible from a negotiation standpoint, but I kind of just laid all my cards on the table and said all of that. That I’m pretty new to this on the commercial side of things. That I’m much more interested in the experience and building up a client list and a resume than in getting paid for a given shoot at the moment. So… How about I come shoot more or less on assignment for a couple days for free? And then I’ll show you the photos and if there are any you like, I’ll license two of them to you for free in return for the experience and for being able to list you down the road as a past client.

And they said: Yeah that works for us. If you get any images we like and want to use, we’d be happy to let you list us as a past client in return.

I made a whole video at the time documenting that experience where I was shooting on assignment, even if it wasn’t paid. You can watch it to see the whole process if you’d like, but essentially I was able to make a handful of photos that I thought were good. Some definitely better than others, but it was the kind of work that I would have been proud to be paid to do on assignment.

When I posted that video back in April, that’s kind of where the story ended, but then things start to get interesting.

I’d sent the photos over and they loved them and chose two for licensing. All is well at that point and in my mind, I now have -- more or less -- a legitimate past client that I can include on future pitches. It’s kind of a gray area and I’ll have to be careful how I word it, since I wasn’t paid, but I did work for them, more or less on assignment, and they were happy with the results. And most importantly, they said I could list them as a past client.

But then a few months later, I get another email, this time from someone else at the tourism board:

"Hey, I’m looking for photos to license. Would you mind showing me the rest of the images you got while you were down here in the spring?"

Okay. Let’s see where this could go.

So I replied: "Of course! Here’s the album online that I showed to the previous person. Let me know if you see anything in there that would work for you, and we can go from there."

I immediately start frantically Googling to figure out what the heck I should charge if they come back asking about prices, because I have no idea and no one ever really seems to talk specifics on pricing photography online.

Don’t worry, I’ll tell you the exact dollar amounts in a minute.

It turns out there is really not a single good way to price images. A lot of sources recommend the Getty Images Pricing Calculator, but that doesn’t seem to exist anymore as they move more and more towards royalty-free licensing. But I do find a few data points here and there that make me feel like I can at least be in somewhat of a ballpark for starting negotiations if they want to license any.

And around then, I get an email back: "Okay, I’ve selected 8 that we’re interested in licensing. How much would that cost?"

Eight! That’s amazing! Plus it means that they must actually like my photos, which is great too.

Okay, I’ll just throw out a number and see if they bite:

"Perfect. For the kind of usage you’re looking at, that will be $300 per image, for a total of $2400. If that works for you, let me know and I’ll send over an invoice."

Keep in mind, I don’t really know how to send over an invoice at this point, but for $2,400, we’ll sure be able to figure that out.

So I’ve basically sweated through my shirt at this point, nervous that they’re going to reply back, basically laughing in my face, and say something like, "Oh okay. We always pay $5 per image for this kind of thing, but thanks anyway."

Remember, I don’t really know what the market rate is for something like this or whether an organization like Visit Sedona has that kind of budget for a handful of photos when they could probably get something else for a lot cheaper on microstock websites. And who am I to ask for thousands of dollars for a few jpegs? Maybe I shouldn’t have even tried to make money from photography in the first place…

I went down the spiral like that, getting a little bit negative and a little bit insecure with each passing moment, and then I got a response:

"Perfect! I’ll have finance send you a check."

Wait. This is actually happening? $2400? For a few photos I took over a weekend?

Licensed Exclusively to Sedona Chamber of Commerce & Tourism Bureau on 6/2/2021 for indefinite use across any channels and purposes.

I know there are a lot of photographers who make a whole lot more than that on a given shoot, but from my perspective, that’s real money. That’s pretty amazing.

I obviously figured out how to send an invoice and now I can legitimately list Visit Sedona as a past client -- a past paid client -- and on top of that, I learned an absolute ton from the experience, which was probably even more valuable than the check I got in the mail.

So I still don’t know if you should work for free in the photography industry or not. This is just one anecdote and maybe I just got lucky there, but I wanted to share that story to add to the conversation. To at least share that sometimes it might not be such a bad idea.

Maybe it’s worth trying at the very least.

About the author: Brian Lackey is a part-time outdoor and travel photographer based in Seattle, Washington. To contact Brian or view more of his work, visit his website at brianwlackey.com.

#editorial #features #tips #brianlackey #experience #exposure #howto #landscapephotographer #landscapephotography #travel #travelphotography #workforexposure #workforfree

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petapixel (unofficial)petapixel@ծմակուտ.հայ
2021-05-05

Netflix’s ‘Love is Blind’ Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

The producers of the Netflix show Love is Blind -- Kinetic Content -- appear to be currently soliciting photographers to shoot five weddings over the course of five consecutive days that are scheduled for the next season of the show. Unfortunately, the role is unpaid.

The show is best described as a "dating reality" series that mirrors some of the elements of The Bachelor/Bachelorette and Married at First Sight. It follows a group of 30 men and women over the course of a short period where each meets for the first time in a speed-dating-like format where they are not allowed to see one another. The couples can only see each other after the men propose to the women they want to marry, which they only do based on what they have learned over the course of the "blind" dates.

The series ends with full wedding ceremonies unless one of the parties calls it off, with the goal of answering the question "is love blind?"

"Love is Blind" was one of the platform's most popular shows in 2020 and became its number-one trending program. The series recorded 1.5 million viewers for the first five episodes and 1.3 million over the following four with a total of 829,000 viewers for the finale episode in its first full week of availability alone. The Reunion episode, which also aired on YouTube, racked up an impressive 1.9 million views. Netflix renewed the series for two additional seasons after reporting that 30 million households had watched the series in an April 2020 Q1 meeting.

Photographer Megan Saul received an email on May 4, 2021 in which a Kinetic Content producer named Natalie asked if Saul would be interested in acting as a wedding photographer for the show.

"I'm a producer for the show 'Love is Blind' on Netflix and wanted to reach out because we would love for you to potentially be a wedding photographer for our upcoming season," Natalie writes.

"Love is Blind is one of the biggest TV phenomenons of 2020 and one of the year's most watched shows in the world with over 30 million households tuning in," she continues. "Let me know if this is something you would be interested in."

Saul was at first excited to hear about the opportunity and responded asking what any professional would in this situation: what was the scope of the request and what was Kinetic Content's budget?

The producer's response shocked Saul.

"You would attend the weddings and take photos. We are doing all of the weddings at the same location. It would be five weddings in total. You would need to be available June 6-10. Times are TBD as of right now. This would be an unpaid opportunity, but your photos will be used for the promos, in US Weekly, People, etc."

Kinetic Content is expecting a working professional photographer to provide five straight days of coverage of five weddings just for the promise of exposure, which greatly offended Saul.

"What goes into my work is not just my time, my artistic eye, or my ability to capture moments they wouldn’t be paying me for," Saul wrote in a Facebook post. "To give you a highlight: My camera gear ($35k+ and any rentals I may need), my team (bare minimum $500/day), insurance ($2000 a year but likely would need additional coverage for something like this), my attorney (because someone is going to need to look over the contracts), my editing time, my computer, my gas every day, food, and gosh I’m sure I can think of plenty more expenses that go into what I do."

Additionally, Saul points out that the last year has been devastating to wedding photographers, as the pandemic caused many of them to either postpone or lose contracts.

"Do you recall we are in a pandemic where the service industry is struggling significantly?" she asks. "You are worth $200 billion and can’t pay a photographer anything for five days, five weddings? That is a lot of exhausting work and hard work for you to get free images for you to use to advertise and promote a TV show that you will make a ton of money from. It’s insulting to artists worldwide."

While the series is funded by and will be aired on Netflix, it is unlikely that the streaming behemoth is aware of how the producers of the show are soliciting talent. Kinetic Content is likely solely responsible for how it spends the budget granted by Netflix and the choice to seek unpaid labor from photographers is likely entirely on the production company.

Kinetic Content did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

"Bottom line, this is offensive," Saul says. "Pay your contractors. Pay artists. Pay people a fair wage. If you profit on something like all these big corporations are then pay at least something. It’s insulting and degrading."

Saul confirms to PetaPixel that she was not the only photographer in her network who was contacted by Kinetic Content, and her worry is that someone will actually take them up on the offer, an offer she believes is egregiously predatory.

"The sad reality here is that someone will work for free because it is an opportunity. You may meet some people but just know I know and now the internet does too. It really just makes you wonder how many of their contractors are unpaid that they are profiting off of. Know your worth."

#culture #industry #news #controversy #exposure #freephotos #kineticcontent #loveisblind #megansaul #netflix #netflixseries #production #unpaid #wedding #weddingphotography #workforexposure #workforfree

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