#4open

2024-10-13

Communities and people doesn’t adopt digital technologies—they adopt #KISS tools. People don’t use TCP/IP or HTTP; they browse websites. They don’t think about SMTP or IMAP when sending emails. They interact with intuitive projects that abstract these technical layers away.

One of the toughest challenges working at the grassroots of #DIY tech is creating#FOSS tools while ensuring they align with #4open standards and good #UX. This mostly isn't only a technical challenge; it’s primarily a social and political one. Unfortunately, it’s been a difficult conversation to have in #openweb and #FOSS spaces so far. it's a large part of the mess we are in, we need to work to compost this mess, the #geekproblem

2024-09-06

https://hamishcampbell.com/we-face-a-digital-cliff-the-open-internet-may-be-over/

Back then, we were teetering on the edge of a digital cliff, with the open internet hanging in the balance. There were two insightful perspectives capturing the crossroads we are at: Phil Windley argued that the open internet was a historical fluke, while Dave Winer suggests that what we were seeing was merely the ebb before the next wave of the #openweb arrived.

The Enclosure of the Digital Commons, #PhilWindley perspective, is a sobering one. Though he has updated his post, he used to see the internet early open nature as an anomaly—an accident of history. In this view, the open internet as we knew it is essentially finished. That once-thriving commons have been systematically enclosed by corporate silos—the #dotcons like Facebook, Google, and Amazon—that now dominate the digital landscape. What remains outside these silos is, according to this perspective, withering and dying. The vision of a decentralized, user-controlled internet has been overwhelmed by the centralized, profit-driven motives of these tech giants.

His argument is that decentralization is hard, perhaps too hard for most people to handle. This reality, combined with the fact that these silos provide convenience, user-friendliness, and perceived safety, has led people to choose them over the messy and challenging world of a truly openweb. People have traded freedom for convenience, security for walled gardens, and the vibrant chaos of the commons for the curated safety of #dotcons. The digital commons have been enclosed, and it was a bleak view.

On the other side, Dave Winer offered a more hopeful perspective. He believes that the history of the internet and the web comes in waves—periods of openness followed by enclosure, which then recede to allow for another wave of openness. In his view, Phil Windley’s observation might not be wrong, but it’s not the end of the story. Rather, it’s the ebb of the tide before a new wave of the #openweb surges forward. The potential for decentralized, and open paths is always there, and it’s a mistake to assume that the current moment is the end of the line.

#DaveWiner argument rests on the idea that the desire for openness and freedom is cyclical. When centralized systems become oppressive, restrictive, or exploitative, there will be a counter-movement that pushes back. The nature of technology, innovation, and humanistic creativity ensures that “native” paths, and protocols will emerge to challenge the status quo.

There is a logic to the digitization of everything. The internet and #openweb built on top of it, is a living example of what happens when this logic is let loose: a tsunami that crashes over every part of our cultures, breaking old structures and opening up possibilities. The storm is not over. Just as the early web opened up commons that were later enclosed, the current wave of enclosure is broken by a new wave of #4open decentralization paths.

What Has Changed in the Last Decade? Looking back at what I wrote nearly ten years ago, the fundamental dynamics haven’t changed. The dotcons have only grown more powerful and more entrenched, but at the same time, the counter-forces have also begun to stir vigorously. Movements like the #Fediverse, based on #ActivityPub, #Nostor and to a lesser extent #Bluesky have grown into real usable decentralized social paths, together with this, we are dipping our toes back into peer-to-peer technologies, this wave is evidence that the storm of digitization is still alive.

Yes, the #dotcons did enclose the first wave of commons, when we stupidly took their digital algorithmic drugs. But the defences of the dotcons are very weak, the only thing holding most people is their addictions, nobody thinks they are healthy any more. The logic of digitization continues, and as long as there are waves, there is hope for the current openweb reboot.

#OMN #makeinghistory #OGB #indymediaback

https://hamishcampbell.com/the-patriarchs-of-the-early-openweb/

#4open #activitypub #bluesky #DaveWiner #dotcons #fediverse #indymediaback #makeinghistory #Nostor #OGB #OMN #openweb #PhilWindley

Have we thought that having all the #openwebs security going through one org might be a fail?

#4open #KISS big/small picture thinking issue.

@letsencrypt have you thought that having all the #openwebs security going through one org might be a fail.

#4open #KISS big/small picture thinking issue.

@bhaugen @bob@epicyon.libreserver.org @bonfire @bob@epicyon.freedombone.net

That's cheating ;) the is #kiss structure to the #4open is your project bronze, silver or gold let's add some metadata :)

@bhaugen @bob@epicyon.libreserver.org @bonfire @bob@epicyon.freedombone.net your project is a bridge, it gets (open) data from one place to another.

Its not the approach I would choice as a main flow but it's as valid and usefull for meany people so as far as it's #4open I support it, looks good, would you say bronze, silver or gold unite.openworlds.info/Open-Med

"il faut que les industriels sachent qu'on peut pas faire n'importe quoi avec la vie des gens!"

#omn #openmedianetwork #4open
Besoin d'une presse indépendante pour le peuple avec une technologie faite PAR LE PEUPLE

m.youtube.com/watch?v=6IGVqsnx

[Image source arte documentaire]

"Legends are stories about a future we don't know yet." Prof. Eben Moglen.

youtube.com/watch?v=HJCczbSF-B

#digitalfreedom #omnreboot #4open #freeasinpuppy #betheflow

Explanation on #video of
#omn #openmedianetwork #4open media project
#indymedia #2020
m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR0f3SqFuRNi8tu69ybRUD7MZ1RtL5Qq4K5ljncyfpmKBNAqjIv4xm1quCY&feature=youtu.be&v=MPFrwMBaKNI

@strypey @Indymedia @clacke this is pritty much how i see the #OMN project working. But clearly not how the #indymedia network can work.

As long as projects are #4open the is no reason not to have a happy diversity of stratagys in a wider network. The problem is when each of these go in different incombatable ways and create parrel networks, a all to common problem. The #OMN approach is designed to mediate this problem.

Il est deja trop tard pour se reveiller en masse mais on peut ouvrir les yeux, se lever et faire ce qu'on peut pour reveiller les autres!!

lemediatv.fr/emissions/les-enq

#omn #joinMastodon #openweb #4open

"La santé est une information qui fait saliver les entreprises, parce qu'elle permet de savoir ce que vous allez devoir acheter. Comme consommateur, cela fait de vous la clientèle captive par excellence. Comme travailleur, cela renseigne sur votre corvéabilité : un congé maternité, une sclérose en plaques, une maladie transmise génétiquement ; autant de facteurs négatifs qui peuvent devenir des points en moins. [...]"
lemediatv.fr/emissions/les-enq
#omn #indymedia #openweb #4open

Questions:
What is the difference between #openmedianetwork and other current media projects?
What solutions does #omn offers which other projects don't?
Is #indymedia #reboot ignoring or dismissing other projects?

#4open #openweb #journalism #media

Get involved with press and media to build independant reporting platforms and federation. #censorship
"Shortly after the February 11 announcement of the finalists, which included two portrait series covering the protests, the World Photography Organisation (WPO) received a complaint and swiftly removed the online galleries of the three offending series." [Read more at link below]
insideimaging.com.au/2020/fina
#4open #independant #journalism #indymedia #reboot #openmedianetwork #fediverse

its an interesting #geekproblem here is a non activist #4open look at a solution worth watching the start of the first video grc.com/sqrl/sqrl.htm

@kaniini @bob I have been working in this area for more than 20 years and have seen hundreds of #openweb projects fail from takeing VC or NGO funding. I have not seen one seceased after swolling the poisen. if it is not #4open its heading for the trash, its just how the world is. Now ideas for non pixy dust funding are alwase worth hearing about, and will support :)

Its interesting to think that the now dusty globe #indymedia network has a lot to say to the current rebooting #openweb "#fediverse" it were a truly huge federated #www network 17 years ago. A lot happened then and it was mostly #4open but think the mailing list might be off-line which is a big shame for academics/people looking at this. Maybe someone could get them back on-line or as a static archive?

Who are core crew is a slightly more slippery process, for now you will know when you are one.

Currently we are using github projects github.com/Openmedianetwork as #4open organising spaces. Please create a account and star and follow the projects you are interested in or wont to be a active part of.

Who are core crew is a slightly more slippery process, for now you will know when you are one.

Currently we are using github projects github.com/Openmedianetwork as #4open organising spaces. Please create a account and star and follow the projects you are interested in or wont to be a active part of.

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