Ooooh! #FallOfCivilizations has a new episode out, 5 hours on #Persia. Includes gems like accusing #Xenophon of writing #CyrusTheGreat #FanFic.
Ooooh! #FallOfCivilizations has a new episode out, 5 hours on #Persia. Includes gems like accusing #Xenophon of writing #CyrusTheGreat #FanFic.
â GĂ©nĂ©ral #Lysandre, tu veux en fait dominer #AthĂšnes toi-mĂȘme !
â Oh mais non mĂȘme pĂŽ vrai !
â Peuh ! Ăcoute, je suis jaloux comme un pou. Alors, aux dires de #XĂ©nophon, je vais intervenir dans tous tes plans et y semer la pagaille et la zizanie. Tiens, je m'impose dans ton armĂ©e grĂące au soutien des Ă©phores ! Tiens, je mĂšne sur les dĂ©mocrates du #PirĂ©e des attaques toutes pourries pour faire style ! Tiens, je les bats dans un engagement mais je nĂ©gocie secrĂštement avec eux !
â Raaaah !
@hist_myth https://mastodon.top/@hist_myth/113936610952027121
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Been reading a collection of Xenophonâs shorter writings.
Iâm rather amused by his list of suitable dog names.
PsychÄ â Soul
Thumos â Spirit
Porpax â Shield Handle
Sturax â Spear Spike
LonchÄ â Lance
Lochos â Ambush
HÄba â Youth
GÄtheus â Delight
Chara â Joy
LeusĆn â Looker
AugĆ â Sunlight
Polus â March
Phroura â Lookout
Phulax â Guard
Taxis â Order
Xiphon â Sword
Phonax â Bloodlust
PhlegĆn â Fiery
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#Xenophon #Greek #History #Philosophy #Dogs #AncientGreek #Classical #Reading
Xenophon is Still Sad
An anonymous Tumblr account called Xenophon is Sad used to collect quotes where researchers disrespected or erased Xenophon the Athenian adventurer. Although Xenophon was a friend of Socrates and an extremely successful writer in many genres, his words leave many academics cold. The Tumblr has not been updated since 2021 but I found two more quotes which belong on it.
(In Xenophonâs Memorabilia the armourer) Pistias boasts of the quality of his cuirasses because they fit the body so closely and because they are so beautiful. Socrates asks how Pistias can well serve a client who has an ugly body. Pistias is confused but doesnât see a problem. Xenophon himself, not the sharpest knife in the drawer, may not get the joke either, but the significant underlying assumption is that Pistiasâ clients want him to make them look more beautiful.
Stewart Flory, 2011 https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2011/2011.02.23
Obviously the strongest analogue for GenAI is Xenophon; trained on Thucydidesâ text with access to data on contemporary events, resulting in something that looks superficially history-ish but doesnât in fact offer a coherent, consistent or trustworthy account of anythingâŠ
Neville Morley, 2024 https://thesphinxblog.com/2024/08/25/song-for-whoever/
I like George Cawkwell who saw Xenophon as using simple language to mask subtle ideas about what was and was not worth talking about. Xenophon is also interested in a wide variety of people and aspects of society, such as the economics that let a worker in Athens specialize in making soles for womenâs boots while a worker in the mountains of Arcadia makes all kinds of footwear between farm work (not to mention the professional companion in the Memorabilia!)
I doubt anyone will read me for as long as they read Xenophon or Thucydides, but in the meantime shares, recommendations, and donations are appreciated!
(scheduled 28 August 2024)
Xenophon: The silver mine will never run out and never suffers from inflation, so why doesnât the city invest more in mining?
Probably true for a few hundred years, but they did indeed deplete in the Roman era.
They reactivated after the industrial revolution with modern techniques, and then really dried up a century later.
And absolutely silver can have inflation, but not at the slow rate of ancient mining.
#Xenophon #WaysAndMeans #History #Philosophy #AncientEconomics
Found a book Iâd partially read a while back, decided I should finish it and get it off my âcurrently readingâ list. Itâs a collection of Shorter Works by Xenophon. I believe once I finish it Iâll have read everything heâs written.
In the section on âWays and Meansâ or âPublic Revenuesâ depending on who is translating the title.
Of course Iâm also working on Stonewielder and Dust of Dreams too.
#Xenophon, in his work "Anabasis," describes passing by the ruins of a large abandoned city during the retreat of the Ten Thousand Greek mercenaries in 401 BC. While Xenophon did not identify the ruins as #Nineveh, many historians have long believed that what he saw were indeed the remains of this ancient Assyrian capital.
#WhatImReading #Hellenica #Xenophon finally getting round to the whole narrative rather than little bits as translation exercises - great fun.
Der #Booktober: noch 5 Tage, noch 5 BĂŒcher. Heute: UnzeitgemĂ€Ăe #Feldherren. Der #Hipparch als Prototyp des erfolgreichen #Feldherrn in #Xenophon|s #Hellenika. Von David #Toalster. #Gutenberg 2013.
Socrates: âDon't you think that self-indulgence debars people from wisdom, which is the greatest good, and drives them into the opposite state? Don't you think that, by dragging them off in pursuit of pleasure, it prevents them from studying and apprehending their real interests; and that it often confuses their perception of good and bad and makes them choose the worse instead of the better?'
Euthydemus: 'That does happen.'
Livre VII et dernier de l' #Anabase de #Xénophon !
AprĂšs avoir crapahutĂ© de l'Irak Ă la GĂ©orgie et s'ĂȘtre farcis Ă pied et en bateau la cĂŽte de la mer Noire, les mercenaires grecs vont-ils enfin rentrer chez eux ?
Ou vont-ils encore se faire entraĂźner dans des aventures sans queue ni tĂȘte au service de potentats locaux ?
Hmm... Ă votre avis ?
Un thread âŹïž
#HistoireGrecque #HistoirePerse #Thrace #AntiquitéGrecque #antiquite
Vous l'attendiez tous et toutes, vous en trépigniez d'impatience, voici le livre VI de l' #Anabase de #Xénophon !
A la fin du livre V, nos mercenaires grecs se chamaillaient Ă Kotyora, colonie des Sinopiens. AprĂšs un petit procĂšs/purge, vont-ils tous mieux s'entendre et rentrer tous ensemble en GrĂšce dans l'harmonie et la concorde ?
Spoiler : NON.
#Anabase, Ă©pisode VI, un THREAD âŹïž
Il fait beau, il fait chaud, c'est dimanche, quoi de mieux que de suivre les pérégrinations de Xéxé et ses mercenaires grecs un peu trop loin de la GrÚce ?
C'est parti pour l' #Anabase de #Xénophon, résumé iconoclaste par une lectrice circonspecte !
Aujourd'hui, le livre V, ou bisbille chez les Dix Mille.
(Enfin les Huit Mille. Y a eu de la casse au livre IV.)
Les mercenaires grecs étaient arrivés à Trapezous, comment rentrer chez eux de là ?
THREAD âŹïž
Vous l'attendiez, le voilà , le voici : l'épisode 4 de notre résumé moqueur de l' #Anabase de #Xénophon (Xéxé dans ce thread).
Dans l'épisode précédent, 10 000 mercenaires grecs coincés dans l'Empire perse n'arrivaient pas à traverser le fleuve Tigre, et décidaient à la place de partir plein nord, dans les montagnes des féroces Kardoukhoi...
Au programme : marches, montagnes, peuples étranges, miel toxique et le passage préféré de votre prof de grec.
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#histoiregrecque #histoireperse #antiquite
En 401 av. J.-C., aprÚs avoir participé à une tentative de coup d'Etat raté, 10 000 mercenaires grecs se retrouvaient piégés au fin fond de l'Empire perse, entourés d'ennemis et sans généraux pour les guider. Vont-ils rentrer chez eux ? C'est ce que nous allons tenter de voir dans ce résumé irrévérencieux, moqueur, iconoclaste de l' #Anabase de #Xénophon - Livre III.
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#histoiregrecque #antiquite #perse #litteraturegrecque
Reprenons notre rĂ©sumĂ© mĂ©chant, irrĂ©vĂ©rencieux et woke-cancel-culture-fera-bondir-les-lecteurs-du-Figaro de l' #Anabase de #XĂ©nophon, un auteur athĂ©nien pas extrĂȘmement ouvert et dĂ©mocrate mĂȘme pour son Ă©poque.
Si vous voulez relire le début, c'est ici : https://mastodon.top/@hist_myth/110147289170416517
Que deviendront nos mercenaires grecs perdus au fin fond de l'empire perse maintenant que leur patron est tout zigouillé ? Vous le saurez dans cet épisode II (fin du livre I, livre II) : complozétrahisons !
Thread âŹïž
Vous l'avez voulu, vous l'avez demandé, voici un thread sur ma lecture de l' #Anabase de #Xénophon , récit historico-biographique de l'#antiquite par un vieux zigoto qu'était pas top tolérant et démocrate.
Si vous aimez du fond du cĆur les Ă©crivains oligarques du IVe siĂšcle av. J.-C., fuyez : ce rĂ©sumĂ© va se moquer rĂ©solument de XĂ©nophon. XĂ©xĂ© pour les intimes.
Montons donc en marche vers la Perse (et repartons dare-dare) !
Aujourd'hui: le livre I sur VII âŹïž
Two seminar outings for new-ish research this term - one for Plato, one for Xenophon. (And both of course subject to UCU strike dates). First up is 'âThe Work of the Freeâ: Xenophon and the Politics of Liberality' at the Institute for Historical Research History of Political Ideas seminar, on February 15th. I'll be arguing for a greater emphasis on the link between liberty and liberality in Xenophon's thought.
#history #politicalthought #xenophon #london
https://www.history.ac.uk/events/work-free-xenophon-and-politics-liberality