In a world where lying undermines our needed genuine change, mediating its pervasive use requires #4opens strategies that push transparency, mutual respect, and courage. We need to compost the current culture of lying https://hamishcampbell.com/we-need-to-compost-the-current-culture-of-lying/

@warmsignull so it's a #block, nothing is to be done practical to build commons. This was a predictable path, hopefully the #4opens dialogue is useful for someone so it was not just a mess.

No resources were created for this energy used, worth thinking about that for the composting we need.

@anttipeltola the #4opens is a good test.

Use #4opens as a litmus test, not a manifesto. It works best like this: “Cool project. Let’s do a quick sanity check.” is it: Open code? Open data? Open standards? Open governance? If the answers get vague, defensive, or managerial, that’s your signal. You don’t need to argue, simply don’t invest trust or energy. Capture starves quietly when it isn’t fed.

I agree with many #OMN / #4opens ideals. My critique is about outcomes: ideology without implementation, survivability offloaded to individuals, DIY models only viable for a few, informal power and gatekeeping, and moral pressure replacing material paths. Preaching is not the problem. Making change livable is.

Full analysis:
https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/4opens/issues/19

I’ve opened a new #4opens issue proposing a bounded experiment, not a solution: a funding system where rules are fixed before deployment and no human makes allocation decisions afterward.

The goal is to explore whether some informal power failures can be reduced.

Discussion welcome:
https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/4opens/issues/18

#OMN #Fediverse #Commons #OpenGovernance

I opened a discussion about a missing design constraint in #4opens.

How are creators expected to sustain themselves while producing #OpenSource and #Commons aligned work, without reintroducing hidden power or relying on self-sacrifice?

I am treating survival funding as a first-class design problem because it shapes governance, licensing, and organization.

Discussion:
https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/4opens/issues/17

#Governance #DigitalCommons

@warmsignull OK account should be active. We had a spam attack a while back and not worked out how to mediate this, so accounts on admin approval at mo till we do. Unite is a space to build #OMN and #4opens sister projects ;)

What could a #4opens world look like? https://hamishcampbell.com/what-duse-a-4opens-world-look-like/ We’re talking about a soft move away from capitalism, not an apocalyptic collapse or utopian leap, but a pragmatic, grounded shift in how we live, relate, and build together in the digital era.

@fay #FOSS need to be socialized #4opens find out more here https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/4opens

@warmsignull theoretically interesting but practically academic.

1) People need to balance work on practical tools for the present and theoretical tools for a far away world. What's totally missing is the real world tools #OMN so from a question of balance....

2) The #4opens, one is open industrial standards, what is the path to that?

@librecomms @OpenInfra yes I spotted this a year ago... what do you think is common and what different, they come from completely different directions, so this is an interesting process to work thou.... #4opens

@hamishcampbell you might wanna look at this amigo! #4opens
https://openinfra.org/four-opens @OpenInfra

UPDATE 2025 - this is still a to-do list for a path out of the current mess. Look at the hashtag #dotcons #geekproblem #4opens. What is needed for the next 5 years to build an open media web https://hamishcampbell.com/what-is-needed-for-the-next-5-years-to-build-a-open-media-web/

@oblomov @palemoon @Vivaldi A fabulous essay, very much on point: there are two webs, a document web and an app web with very different browser requirements and emphasis on user-agency in the first place, and corporate agency in the second.

But I don't like the idea that every document dictates which browser will work; that just puts the user back under control of the server, and I wouldn't want reams of minor browsers on my machine for security reasons.

#indieweb #4opens

@oblomov @howard

So we can see a path where the web of documents (#4opens #smallweb) is pushed away from the web of apps (#dotcons #bigweb).

This is a functional path for sustaining the alt tech path as the #smallweb is much more #KISS thus #DIY than the mess we have in the "bigweb". We likely need a better framing than this...

Blaming “the internet” hides the real problem. it’s not “the internet” doing this. The internet — the actual internet — is a set of mostly #4opens protocols, neutral, simple, robust, built for sharing and connecting. What’s keeping people hooked is the #dotcons: the corporate silos, the addictive platforms, the thin veneer of #techshit smeared over the top of an otherwise elegant #KISS architecture.

It’s the platforms, not the pipes.

@theinternetiscrack there is a real issue with the framing here, as it's not the internet, which is a group of mostly #4opens protocols. It's the #dotcons, the thin verner of #techshit smeared over the top, that is crap #KISS

So what do we do? We #KISS hard stop trusting in any elitist-managed futures. Compost lies using #4opens horizontal networks https://hamishcampbell.com/we-compost-lies-to-build-4opens-rooted-local-horizontal-networks-of-resistance-and-renewal/

In practice, projects like the #OMN and #4opens are examples of this balance: using basic tech to empower trust, not control. What does #mainstreaming do? https://hamishcampbell.com/what-does-mainstreaming-do/

By adopting the #4opens, we take a simple step toward creating a decentralised, open, and people-centred internet that empowers people. Outreach text for the #4opens https://hamishcampbell.com/outreach-text-for-the-4opens/