@BenjaminHCCarr Good news! It’s good to hear that the oppressive technofeudal gate keeper (#StackExchange/ #StackOverflow) might stop jailing knowledge in #Cloudflare’s #walledGarden.
Note that they have taken a jab at #AnonymousOverflow in the past week:
And now AnonymousOverflow has a nice stars background too uwu
Instance: anonoverflow.ruikkaa.link
Source code: codeberg.org/ruikkaa/AnonymousOverflow
#anonymousoverflow #anonoverflow #stackoverflow #web #privacy #floss #instance #stars
Also - the #StackOverflow mirror, #AnonymousOverflow, at least this particular instance of it, has been giving me the non-intended answer/post multiple times now.
If you see, the URL slug is right and has the exact question I'm asking, even the short content snippet on the search page (in my case, #SearXNG) had the right answer, but opening up the link - it has a totally different question/solution entirely that has nothing to do with the slug or the short snippet shown during search.
Kinda weird, my guess the database is storing the content of these pages wrongly.
🔗 https://code.whatever.social/questions/225717/how-do-i-re-center-spotlight-search-bar-mac
You can filter and browse through all the known #AnonymousOverflow instances now at https://aohub.httpjames.space
This is gaining some traction again today, that I just felt like updating that I've been using #SearXNG a ton as my sole search engine since making the move and it's been absolutely great and reliable. As mentioned, it's fast, and it doesn't give me garbage results - it seems to even source answers from sources that scrape from sites you may not want to visit directly such as #Reddit. Some points from my use:
- I've used it to search for a bunch of stuffs like movies, a LOT of programming questions, basic stuffs like currency/timezone conversions, local (to me) bureaucratic/commercial stuffs that aren't international (i.e. shouldn't be the easiest to look up), other basic stuffs like looking up the meaning of a word, etc.
- From those searches, it's only failed once and it wasn't even a fail. I was looking up a local store by its domain name (but without the actual domain), and it didn't suggest the actual site. It did gave me the store's "link tree" which lists down all of the store's links, which led me to the actual site I was looking for. This was the only failure and it's excelled in other searches I deem tougher, more obscure.
- Some questions that I expect useful human answers it'd give me answers from Reddit, but not through Reddit but rather: https://redlib.pussthecat.org. It seems to mirror Reddit in its entirety and I think it's great as it's a lot cleaner, less clutter and it doesn't require any login.
- Programming questions that I also expect human answers, it'd give me: https://code.whatever.social, which is essentially #StackOverflow but similar to #Redlib, this is #AnonymousOverflow and it allows you to source answers from Stack Overflow without the clutter and without the privacy concerns.
All in all, I freaking love SearXNG and I've migrated all my computer devices to use that over #Google. I've not done it on my #iOS devices thinking that it wasn't possible, but apparently it is possible (on #Firefox anyway but should apply to #Safari too since they're essentially the same on iOS) so I'll prolly do just that. If you've not tried it out yet, really just give it a try - you could always go back to regular ol' Google or anything else like #DuckDuckGo if it's not working the way you'd hope.
@GregorTacTac
Since #stackoverflow is Cloudflared and I am excluded from #Cloudflare pages, I had to go some hoops to reach the comment you linked. I ended up reaching it through this link (because for some strange reason #anonymousOverflow could not handle that link):
The articles I linked cover dozens of issues. Lie Ryan just address one of the issues. I’m not sure what of Lie Ryan’s chatter you’re interested in. Him and other CF proponents argue that CF’s customers (web admins) are not MitM’d because they agree to it. It’s a stretch to say the web admins give their /informed/ consent because most of them have no idea what the consequences are. Some do not even know that CF sees the traffic. More importantly, the end users (who are not CF customers) are MitM’d because they have no idea. There’s no transparency because web admins do not inform their users (often because they’re not well informed themselves).
It’s unclear what to unpack because his comment was long. He tells people CF does not see sensitive info because admins can setup a direct path for that. How does the user know when the admins did that? If you look at the login page code for lemmy.world, it’s not humanly readable and in fact the URLs are obfuscated. I could not work out from that rat’s nest of code which host the login creds go to.
Lie Ryan tries to imply that you can trust Cloudflare. But if you read the page I linked, clearly you can’t. The CEO himself admitted that you should not trust Cloudflare with real identity information when he was confronted for doxxing the identity of a whistle blower.
His claim about ISPs MitMing web traffic seems a bit nutty. It could have happened ~20 years ago when TLS was less common. But plaintext web traffic is quite rare these days.
#AnonymousOverflow hit 200 #GitHub stars 🤩
Version 1.11.0 has been released.
@dw_innovation
It’s great to have another badly needed search alternative like #Stract. One unique feature is ability to thumbs up/down results. But what does a thumbs down actually do?
I give a thumbs down to #stackexchange hits because they are in the #Cloudflare walled garden. They get removed from my result list, but what else? I was hoping it would send a signal to Stract.
StackExchange links should be replaced with #AnonymousOverflow links.
Indeed mojeek.com is not the only non-tech-giant #searchEngine (+crawler). From strypey’s mentions + some of my notes:
* #Mojeek ← does their own crawling
* #Metager.org ← does their own crawling
* #SearchMySite.net ← avoid (Cloudflare)
* #Searx ← just proxy software, many instances
* #4get ← another proxy software, about a dozen instances: https://4get.ca/instances
* #Gigablast ← does their own crawling, but what happened?.. they were dissolved last year & seem to now be www.alltheinternet.com
* #Ombrelo ← a proxy but more advanced than the others (filters/downranks Cloudflare sites)
#YaCy is notable because it’s a crawler that you can install and operate yourself. YaCy instances can be public-facing and they can also share indexes with each other fedi style apparently. Some Searx instances tap YaCy instances.
I would love to find a searx or 4get instance that rejects the tech giants, but aggregates from YaCy, mojeek, gigablast, metager, maginalia.nu, frogfind.com, & wiby.me.
And I would love it even more if it would make replacements:
* #StackExchange → #AnonymousOverflow
* #YouTube → #Invideous
* #Medium.com → scribe.rip
* #BBC → BBC’s onion site
* #NYTimes → New York Times’s onion site
* etc.
search.fabiomanganiello.com makes some of those replacements.
@pglpm There is an alternative front-end to escape #StackExchange called #AnonymousOverflow which liberates the content from the #walledGarden. But it would be an improvement to have an option that gets the content completely out of that jail, and indeed a federated mechanism could theoretically help add redundency & share the hosting costs. /cc @dekkzz76
@blacklight I noticed your search engine is sending users directly to #stackexchange, which should be avoided if possible. Is it trivial to add URL replacements like #AnonymousOverflow to your #searx configuration or does it require forking the code?
I just discovered #StackExchange was previously #Cloudflare-jailed in 2016¹. So SE evolved to wisely ditch CF for a number of years then in the past month or so regressed back into foolish exclusive greed.
The fix for people living in the free world is #AnonymousOverflow:
@volkris @pglpm It would be very useful if a bot would harvest all “askFedi” hashtagged status into an organized DB that could replace #stackExchange. But it’d be quite ambitious.
If you want to liberated #deshitified access to SE, have a look at #anonymousOverflow:
@kevinbowen Now there is a front-end that helps us escape the #Stackexchange jail:
#AnonymousOverflow is now updated to version 1.8.
https://overflow.777.tf/
AnonymousOverflow- View StackOverflow in privacy and without the clutter.
"AnonymousOverflow allows you to view StackOverflow threads without the cluttered interface and exposing your IP address, browsing habits and other browser fingerprint data to StackOverflow."
Example URL: https://overflow.smnz.de/questions/25066214/flexbox-not-giving-equal-width-to-elements?rq=1
Git link: https://github.com/httpjamesm/AnonymousOverflow
Instances links:
Onion instance link: http://ao.vernccvbvyi5qhfzyqengccj7lkove6bjot2xhh5kajhwvidqafczrad.onion/
#AnonymousOverflow
#StackOverflow
#Privacy
#AlternativeFrontend
