@slaine I know. #VIA did keep a foot in #embedded since they were still offering new C7 chips in 2016 and are only beaten by like DM&P's #Vortex86 SoC's and their #ICOP-branded #SOM|s...

• The main problem was just that many cool ideas they did - like the #Artigo in 5,25" form factor - were never available outside of closed "big" #B2B-only distributors where one needs to first sign up as a client to even be allowed to browse their catalog and have to fax or call to get actual pricing info.

This is why #RaspberryPi (and to an extent #DMP) own the market, as I can literally just order either conveniently online with not much of a hassle.

• The #OpenBook by VIA is one of the inspirations for the #NUCbook, tho that's because #UCFF is actually an Open Standard as it's dimensions and port arrangements are normed, so one can actually support it.

https://github.com/KBtechnologies/nucbook

@jbqueru personally, I hope for #RISCv to become #mainstream and be offered in more than just SBCs with #SolderedDownRAM but also regular formfactors like #UCFF / #NUC, #MiniITX, #MiniDTX, #microATX & #ATX!

@rl_dane basically:

All existing #Laptops on the #market are IMHO a #Downgrade from my #X230Tablet ( @frameworkcomputer are the "least worst" by a long shot tho! ) and I do want some essential features that I see as non-negotiable, like tool-free hot-swappable batteries but since noone does that and I don't want to rely on proprietary form factor boards (#Framework's boards are proprietary!), I want to literally just take a #UCFF aka. #NUC form factor mainboard and put it in a case with the necessary parts to make it work mobile...

• Basically the NUCbook would look not dissimilar from a CHONKY Military Laptop because I don't want to use any non-#COTS part and *if there's need for custom circutry ot should be #OpenSource'd (i.e. #Battery and #PowerCircutry)...

#NUCbook

@sabi Well, there are #FlexRisers and besides the #PicoGUS by @polpo there are also #CS4237B-based #ISA Soundcards...

• In theory you could use the #WeeCee / #Wee86 documentation and Schematics from @rasteri to #DIY such a solution...

That could not only fit into 1U @ 19" but also #NUC / #UCFF form factors and be entirely #fanless on it's own...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJEp4ZUG7BI

Some specs for the Ryzen 8000GE series of 35-watt CPUs leaked recently. The figures include base clock but not boost clock or GPU clock.

Hardware looks identical to the 8000G series, just clocked down to fit in a 35-watt power envelope (more or less).

This is good news for people who want ultra-compact servers! There's even some hint that the PRO units may support ECC RAM.

spec table via TomsHardware #AMD #Ryzen #selfhosting #UCFF #1LPC

I think the leaks about the Ryzen 8000G (and presumably 8000GE) APUs are exciting news for anybody who's trying to do actual work with tiny PCs that are limited to 35-watt processors.

That particular group of people includes me, and I'm very satisfied with the 5750GE-based #1LPC I picked up used a few months ago, so I'm hopeful the new APUs will continue to provide a really good value in this particular PC form factor.

Dollar for dollar, on the used ultra-compact PC market I have seen 5000GE-based systems consistently selling for less than an Intel system of equivalent capability ... assuming you can find one. They sell out quick.

AMD also has the lead over Intel (but not Apple) in terms of compute per watt.

It sounds promising!

#Ryzen #AMD #UCFF #selfhosting

Beelink GTR7 mini-PC Review: A Complete AMD Phoenix Package at 65W

Beelink became one of the first vendors to launch an AMD Phoenix (Zen 4 CPU + RDNA3 iGPU in a power envelop suitable for notebooks) mini-PC lineup when they announced the GTR7 product line.

The company sent over their entry-level version - the GTR7 7840HS - to put through our evaluation routine for small form-factor systems. Beelink is touting the use of vapor chamber-based cooling, allowing the Ryzen 7 7840HS to be configured with a 65W TDP (compared to the 35W-54W cTDP specified by AMD).

We are starting to see more Phoenix-based mini-PCs in the market from the likes of SimplyNUC (Moonstone), Morefine (M600), and MinisForum (UM790 Pro). Compared to these UCFF systems, the Beelink GTR7 seems to have an edge by operating the Phoenix SoC with a higher cTDP configuration and incorporating better connectivity.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/20018/beelink-gtr7-minipc-review-a-complete-amd-phoenix-package-at-65w #ucff #usff #minipc

@aral @snazzyq To my defense, when #Intel announced that they want to cancel the #NUC production I kindly asked them if they want to FLOSS the #UCFF form factor details further and offered to rename the project if they found the name infringing...

So far, my ticket [Case #:05916086] has yet to be replied to by Intel at all...

@bradlinder I hope #MINISFORUM is releasing a #UCFF board with the former...

Cuz I think those low-power mobile chips will be awesome for the #NUCbook...
https://github.com/KBtechnologies/nucbook

@thatguyoverthere @frameworkcomputer well, they do have some upgradeability and whilst they did release specs that make it possible to design drop-in preplacements, it's not some stardardized form factor unlike the #UCFF [#NUC] which the SFF-SIG standardized openly...

@mntmn @liaizon it's not using the NUC element, but the #UCFF board form factor aka "NUC" or oftentimes referenced as 4x4" ...

It would certainly make a board pretty chunky but AFAICT it's possible...

@lcruggeri @juliank @Raspberry_Pi That should be totally feasible...

Personally, I think #UCFF aka "#NUC" is also a feasible form factor providing ample I/O space including 2x SoDIMM slots and 2x PCIe x4 NVMe-compatible M.2 slots...