🎵🎧🏳️‍⚧️ Voice training is like that one thing you don't do for a while, and then you start, and then you can't stop doing it

#trans #transgender #voicetraining

TV news anchor shares his three expert strategies for sounding more confident when speaking to others

https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://www.upworthy.com/tv-news-anchor-shares-his-three-expert-strategies-for-sounding-more-confident-when-speaking-to-others

RE: https://swingset.social/@Mux/115943861466549997

Hey lovely trans+/enby fedi folks :FediverseSymbol:

Could any of you perhaps offer some advice for our friend Mux?

This is mostly aimed at German fedizens, but you don't need to be a German fedizen to answer, so long as you have experience of what she's asking.

Unlike us, she's fluent in German, so you can answer her in German, English, or the other languages she speaks.

Persönlich haben wir zu viel Deutsch verlernt 😅🤦‍♀️

Danke 🫶

#trans #transgender #TransFem #VoiceTraining #HairRemoval #AskFedi #LGBTQ+ #LGBTQIA+

Wow!

For you #trans girls who think their voice is too deep for #voicetraining

https://youtu.be/v82m5Vg1kOY

Brains are weird. But I seem to have found a voice training hack for mine.

I have an internal monologue; a major one. Like easily 2/3-3/4 of my thoughts come through as speech. I still see plenty of images and other sensations, but audio is how I think - and it always has been.

Not only do a large portion of my thoughts work as spoken words, but I process much of what people say to me that way. Makes it hard to have a conversation in a loud place, or if the TV volume's too high. I also hear what I say in my head before I say it, and that's where the hack comes in.

I've been voice training for just about seven months. I'm to the point where my therapist and I are no longer just working on being able to use a modified voice recipe; it's now down to tweaking things to sound the way I want. She's very happy with my progress, and to hear some tell it, I'm moving stupid-fast.

A few days ago I realized that my internal monologue is still in my old voice. Or close to it. And for the first time ever I had the idea - why can't I change _that_?

Turns out, I can. It takes some cognitive load (for now), but having my internal voice match the one I've been practicing makes it easier to keep the new recipe up when speaking! Wild, right?

Mentioned this to my therapist today, and it was something she'd never thought of. But since it's not something that'll harm me like raising my pitch too high, she's all for it!

Anyway - brains are weird!

#Trans
#VoiceTraining

Time to get serious about my voice training.

I really did not have overpowering dysphoria about my male voice before. I tried voice coaching at Seattle Voice Lab and completed about four sessions. I did not see any progress, and after losing my job, I stopped voice training. On top of that, I was very discouraged.

Any time I stumbled upon a voice training video on YouTube, I would save it to a playlist. I never had the motivation to actually watch them or practice. Or rather, I did not want to feel disappointed with myself, remembering my previous experience. I also paid for a couple of voice training apps, and even the full course from Jasmine Vine.

I also began following a lot of transgender content creators, and many of them are trans women who still use their "male" voice and have stated that they are not pursuing voice training at all. I thought that maybe I could take that path too. Voice training is not a requirement for being a trans woman, so I stopped looking for ways to resume/start again from scratch.

Ten days ago, Seattle Voice Lab published a video about one of their former coaches, who was fired after several complaints from students, low performance, and questionable behavior. That was the very same coach who was assigned to me back then, and learning about the types of complaints this person got (which line up with my own experience) made me wonder if voice training itself might not be as bad as the experience I had with that particular coach.

Yesterday’s experience was my first time having really bad dysphoria about my voice. Today I am a lot calmer. I think that as long as I do not hear my own voice through a recording, I will be mostly OK, but now I have renewed motivation to move forward with training.

I have had the pleasure of talking with Jasmine, and she has been really sweet every time, so I am going to give her coaching a serious try. I might even return to Seattle Voice Lab once I can afford it, of course.

Getting SRS within the next year is a possibility, but it is not entirely under my control. Engaging in voice training IS under my control, so I am making the commitment to it, with the goal of having a female-passing voice by this time next year.

My wife really encouraged me today, and she mentioned that sometimes, especially when I say "Thank you," I sound totally cis.

So this fight begins. Wish me luck.

#TransVoice #VoiceTraining #TransWomenAreWomen #TransitionJourney

We imagine that most folks reading this will probably recognise the tagline:

In space no one can hear you scream

... even if they don't recognise its source (the tagline to Alien).

It makes sense that this continues to get used, in one form or another, in any media set in space, but it also feels like folks are missing a key extension of this.

Nobody can hear you scream because the space around you is a near-perfect vacuum (almost entirely devoid of matter), so sound cannot travel through it.

Using this same logic, if you were in an isolated capsule in space, with near-perfect vacuum all around you, nobody would be able to hear any noise you made.

And there were no windows within that capsule, nobody would be able to see you either.

Imagine the possibilities here for neurospicy people who don't want to be perceived.

For neurospicy trans+ people:

In space no one can hear you voice train.

For many neurospicy people:

In space no one can hear you stream... or record other content.

This post was sponsored by our first lisdex starting to kick in and us being pathologically unable to voice train if anybody can hear us (or if we believe that they can) 😅🤦‍♀️

#InSpaceNoOneCanHearYouScream #InSpaceNoOneCanHearYouVoiceTrain #InSpaceNoOneCanHearYouStream #trans #transgender #VoiceTraining #VoiceTrainingIsHard #neurospicy #neurodivergent #AuDHD

PSA for any trans+ person looking to start, or currently doing, any kind of voice training

Seattle Voice Lab has broken their silence over a former employee of theirs (Jimmy Chen), who set up his own voice coaching service called Trans Voice Lab.

We need to address Trans Voice Lab.

We highly recommend watching / listening to the whole video, but here are some key points within their video:

• Jimmy's employment was terminated for "manipulative teaching practices and dishonesty towards" their students.
• He downloaded their bespoke training materials (SVL's intellectual property) and client lists (!!!), then used these to set up his own voice coaching service and write a book.
• SVL didn't want to have to make the video, but has felt obliged to do so.
• SVL is pursuing "legal counsel" over Jimmy's actions.

tl;dr

• Avoid any videos or guides from Jimmy Chen.
• Avoid using Trans Voice Lab at all costs.

Boosts and crossposts very welcome, as we need to make more folks aware of this :BoostsOKPrideSymbol:

#trans #transgender #enby #NonBinary #voice #VoiceTraining #VoiceTherapy #VoiceCoaching #VoiceFeminization #VoiceFeminisation #VoiceMasculinization #VoiceMasculinisation #SeattleVoiceLab #TransVoiceLab #JimmyChen #PSA #queer #LGBTQ+ #LGBTQIA+ #BoostsWelcome

Voice training is really hard, and currently my biggest pain point both in terms of transition and just being social tbh.

Anyone got good tips, resources?

#voicetraining #trans #queer #lgbt #voice #voiceacting

Dites ma commu trans sûre de Lyon, t'aurais pas des recommandations d'endroits / pros de santé pour faire du voice training ?

Le boost aide une pote isolée en galère 🔁

#lyon #voiceTraining #transition #trans

Most apps help "find your voice"

Confidence isn't about discovering yourself

It's about speaking 15% louder, pausing strategically, eliminating filler

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/louder-voice-confidence/id6753901380

#BehavioralEconomics
#iOS26
#VoiceTraining
#SpeechCoaching
#ProfessionalDevelopment
#Productivity
#Sales
#Presentation
#Privacy
#NoSubscription

We've been thinking more about voice training.

• We don't find it fun: it's a painful chore.
• We can't do it if being perceived in person.
• We find the exercises too much like singing lessons (which are triggering) and very cringe.
• We cannot stick to a regular training regimen, particularly where we cannot guarantee sufficient uninterrupted time and space alone.

We do, however, like poorly attempting other accents (mostly English regional accents) and find it actively fun. (Not by ourselves though.)

Anyone managed to voice train not via daily, boring, abstract exercises, but rather fun voice activities that don't feel embarrassing to do around others and which actually spark joy?

#VoiceTraining #VoiceFeminisation #VoiceTherapy #SpeechAndLanguageTherapy #trans #transgender #NonBinary #queer #LGBTQ+ #LGBTQIA+ #AskFedi #GenuinelyAsking

Edit:

• Fixed some typos and missing thoughts / sentences.
• Thank you for all answers so far. Sadly none are helpful for us, but they may be helpful to others.
• We struggle with many things that make voice training much more difficult for us, including the inability to make verbal noise(s) solo within earshot of anyone else where we're not directly communicating with them.
  • Even when we used to stream, it was very difficult for us to do if wife was downstairs in living room, on the same floor as our office, even with the door shut.

Stanford Medicine is hosting a free webinar on Gender Affirming Voice Care Options on Today, September 16 from 6pm – 7pm PST. It's open to the public & will provide a safe & supportive environment to learn & ask questions about gender-affirming voice care.

https://stanfordmedicine.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_QvuU83TCT5-jAVARCZSQKg#/registration

#trans #nonbinary #genderaffirmingcare #transrights #transliberation #slp #slplife #voicetraining #vocalcoach

In relation to the voice clip in our most-recent Trans Voice Friday post, for context this is what we sounded like in early 2022. It's a snippet of our side of a conversation with our then voice coach (Louise Milner-Smith) during our second session with her.

We just picked that section cos it's kinda funny to us out of context how we ramble during conversations 🤭

#TransVoice #VoiceTraining #VoiceFeminisation #VoiceDysphoria #trans #transgender #TransFem #TransWoman #transition #queer #LGBTQ+ #LGBTQIA+ #PreTransitionVoice #YesWeActuallyUsedToSoundLikeThat

Hey folks 🩷

We did the #TransVoiceFriday thing 🫶

Once again, cos of the stupid alt-text character limit, we've had to put the transcript within the post.

#TransVoice #VoiceTraining #VoiceFeminisation #VoiceDysphoria #trans #transgender #TransFem #TransWoman #transition #queer #LGBTQ+ #LGBTQIA+

Transcript

Hey lovelies, loveliers and loveliests. We're going to try to do a quick voice recording while it's still Trans Voice Friday, because we haven't done one in a while, and we feel like we should try to whilst we can. We haven't exactly made a breakthrough as such with our voice or anything, but we have begun to feel like maybe it's not as awful as we'd started to believe it must be, due to the frequent misgenderings we've continued to have in recent months. Part of this was from realising that we actually do have limited recordings of our pre -transition voice, going at least as far back as about 2004, which was during our uni days. We actually have even older recordings going as far back as 1999, but those are in digitised versions of family video recordings and lower audio quality. Listening to those made us realise that we have gradually feminised our voice over the last four plus years, which kinda helped us to stop completely hating our current voice. Don't get us wrong, we still don't like our current voice, and very much want to improve it. However, it softened the feeling of cringe we'd been having whenever listening back to ourselves. We've also realised that, from others' point of view, we actually don't have a bad voice or vocal range. For example, if we work our way gradually into it, we can raise our pitch and hold it higher like this more-stereotypically-femme head voice. It doesn't sound particularly awful to us, but it also doesn't sound quite like how it should sound. So we tend to let it sit around this level instead. By the same token, if we focus on our voice, we can gradually push it lower and lower and keep using this deep chest voice. But the moment we stop holding it down here, it naturally floats back up to this point we've got ourselves to. Once we've got more time and energy, we'll try to do more recordings and share thoughts, but for now, this will sadly have to do. Ta-ta for now.

Edit: In case anyone's interested, our pitch range was about as low as 81 Hz and apparently as high as 274 Hz, but we're not 100% sure. However, given that we were given a pitch target of A#3, which is about 233 Hz, ages back, it's not impossible.

Just now during voice training, I said out loud, "What the fuck?; I sound like an old Black lady!" then immediately followed it with, "Oh. Right."
#VoiceTraining