#atonality

2025-10-28

There’s a thread I’ve just seen about someone’s view of atonal music. I don’t link it.

My reaction when I don’t like something is usually to ask myself a few questions, like ‘am I misunderstanding this?’ or ‘is it that my expectations for this music are wrong?’ or ‘what is the intention of this music? do I know the meaning of the sounds here, the way harmonies in tonal music are organised into hierarchies?

The audience is being asked to do more work for new music than in eg Mozart’s time. That is definitely a problem for composers.

But I try to avoid judging it against tonality, which I think is the danger here: to say ‘this music doesn’t act like tonal music, so therefore it is a failure’. If it were trying to be tonal, then it’s failing, but it’s definitely not trying to do that.

New music, breaking new ground, has historically been ill-received at first, sometimes for a long time. Berlioz, Mahler, even Beethoven’s late works. People can adjust.

#classicalmusic #atonality

2025-08-17

@ho
I’ve been reading composer bios and publicity materials for at least 30 years claiming that this or that artist is bravely saving music from the tyranny of atonality. Every single one of them is a lone courageous rebel risking it all to take a stand against the empire of ugliness. And apparently none of them know about each other, or realize that music has been saved the same way a thousand times already.
@c_reider
@composers
#composers
#atonality

Guillaume le RougeWIREID91LDNON@mstdn.social
2025-07-07

Fascists hate him! He destroyed the very foundations of Western Civilization with this one weird musical trick. Click here to learn how you can too.

youtube.com/watch?v=19VxHGpzJB

#arnoldschoenberg #music #modernism #classical #atonality #fascism #decadence #avantgarde #experimental #artmusic

2024-08-01
2023-06-09

#AlbanBerg #Tonality #Atonality #TwelveToneTechnique #SecondVienneseSchool

"I think the origin of all this clamour for tonality is not so much the need to sense a relationship to the tonic, as a need for familiar chords: let us be frank and say "for the triad"; and I believe I have good reason to say that just so long as a certain kind of music contains enough such triads, it causes no offence, even if in other ways it most violently clashes with the sacred laws of tonality." ~ Alban Berg

Frédéric Sarter (Peredovitch)peredovitch@oc.todon.fr
2022-11-22

Toward the end of his life, after having resisted #atonality (for want of a better term) for about 50 years, and kept #tonality alive through various "tricks" (#polytonality, #polyrhythm, ironic use of classical forms and citations, #collage... all devices which Bernstein once nicknamed "#tonal refreshers"), Stravinsky, whose personal beliefs were becoming increasingly religious & mystic, finally caved in to #dodecaphonic and #serial techniques, albeit in an idiosyncratically Stravinskian way...

2019-03-29

Arnold Schoenberg - Sechs kleine Klavierstücke, Op. 19 (Six Little Piano Pieces) (1913)

youtube.com/watch?v=1Hp-cFWZnW

#Music #Atonality #Schoenberg

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