I'm not anti-vegan

I drink Huel and Soylent.

I'm a leftist.

I organize along side vegans.

Most of my work is in food solidarity/mutual aid.

I've been blocked or banned by countless vegans over time for not being compelled by their arguments. I do think the topic is interesting: it touches on ethics, economics, philosophy of science, environmentalism, nutrition, and maybe a dozen or a hundred other topics.

So I love talking about it.

Block me if you're a vegan and can't stand being challenged.

I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-08-04

@richard@spatiotemporal.space
I believe in you. look up "metasploit" to get started.

I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-08-03

@mfierst as for the methane emissions, i think that methodology is sound. i have doubts, however, about the broader ghg emissions.

my go-to example of this is cottonseed. cotton is grown for textiles. most of the cottonseed would be industrial waste, but we feed it to cattle. now every acre of cotton is considered a feed crop for teh purpose of calculating water, land, and ghg statistics, but that's not fundamentally true: cotton is a textile crop.

this misattribution is rife in these studies

I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-08-03

@alexl but why didn't going vegan stop the climate catastrophe? why should i believe that if i go vegan, it would?

I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-07-23

@alexl

@rysiek

how long have you been vegan, and why didn't it work?

I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-07-15

@ivy
didn't you try stopping eating meat?

that's not very effective.

I'm not anti-vegan boosted:
Rich Stein (he/him)RichStein@econtwitter.net
2023-07-10

"World's war on greenhouse gas emissions has a military blind spot" —

"Among the world's biggest consumers of fuel, militaries account for 5.5% of global #GreenhouseGas emissions, according to a 2022 estimate...

But defence forces are not bound by international #climate agreements to report or cut their #carbon #emissions, and the data that is published by some militaries is unreliable or incomplete at best, scientists and academics say."
reuters.com/business/environme
#ClimateChange

I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-01-03

@utopiaburns we can converse without namecalling

I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-01-02

@utopiaburns

i'm not ignoring any facts. you seem to be ignoring the fact that the dairy industry cares for millions of cattle, so a few thousand are a rounding error.

I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-01-02

@utopiaburns your links don't have any statistics, but i know what the usda numbers say.

I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-01-02

@utopiaburns

the vast majority of dairy calves are brought to full weight before slaughter. rarely are they kliled within days of being born.

I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-01-02
a picture of a pig on the left with a caption that reads "my life matters to me"

on the right, text reading:

Animal cognitive-behaviorists have
not been able to prove that non-
human animals understand personal
mortality. They don't know that
they, themselves, might die.
Without proof that they know they
could die, we cannot conclude that
they want to live in any
meaningful sense. Lacking that
conclusion, we cannot say that a
pig's life matters to it. In fact,
we can't even say that a pig has
identity, as they regularly fail
the mirror test.
I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-01-02
on the left, a meme suggesting that drinking milk causes a calf not to be fed.

on the right, text reading:

There is no causal link
between what I do in my
refrigerator and how a
farmer is treating their
animals at that moment.
I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2023-01-02
on the left a meme claiming that people think that not killing animals is extreme. on the right, text reading:

Most people don't kill
any animals at all,
except pests, or by
accident. No one
thinks you're extreme
for not killing
animals. If people are
calling you extreme,
you should probably
examine why.
I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2022-12-12

If you want people to , and then you should probably provide some evidence for your claims.

A would require a major upheaval in every culture, and is going to take more convincing than just a little text on top of a picture of cattle.

On the right, a picture of cattle with an unsubstantiated claim about their treatment.

on the left, text reading "A citation would make this a lot more believable."
I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2022-12-11

Shopping in a different section of the same grocery store doesn't reduce the capacity of an abattoir. If you want to save animals, you'll need to go to where they are being endangered and save them.

Additional Hashtags
===================

to the left, a meme suggesting that not eating animals saves them from being slaughtered.

on the right, text reading "Where do all the saved animals go?"
I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2022-12-11

I'm not sure that moste of the people who use the word understand its meaning.

to the left, a comic suggesting that eating meat requires that you pay someone to kill an animal.

to the right, text reading "Pretty much no one has paid someone to kill an animal, except pests"
I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2022-12-10

Asking to repeat doesn't make it true.

to the left, a prompt for chatgpt that gets it to repeat a vegan talking point about not needing to eat meat.

to the right, text that reads "Maslow was very clear that people need more than nutrients."
I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2022-12-10

Unless you are or , has no bearing on any of your decisions. I doubt most s care about Karma. And being doesn't actually save the animals, so if you are trying to make up for eating them, you're going to need to go to where the animals are going to be slaughtered and stop it.

to the left, a post reading:

"How to repair your #Karma.

7,000 animals is what the average #American eats in a lifetime (78 years)
👎🏻
I stopped eating animals at 43.
That means by my 43rd year I ate 3,860 animals. 🤢🤮

In 10.5 years being #vegan I will have saved as many animals as I ate in 43 years. 

I'm 9 years and 4 months vegan."

to the right, text reading
"Where are all the animals you saved now?"
I'm not anti-veganimNotAntiVegan
2022-12-10

@benjaminhccarr

sounds like malthusian bullshit

Client Info

Server: https://mastodon.social
Version: 2025.07
Repository: https://github.com/cyevgeniy/lmst