"...We’re not getting rid of MAGA until we learn we’re smart enough to unite not divide..."
This is to *all* of us "...smart enough..." means:
* #MAGA needs to smarten up about #reality, #technology #vaccines #corruption #ultrawealthy #morality & so on
* #liberals need to understand how to #communicate with but not #alienate the MAGA tribe (yeah, *HUGE* challenge for me personally with my father & others)
* #uncommitted need to understand that, with 2 parties, you have to choose
Well, when enough of your fellow citizens are pissed off enough to call themselves #uncommitted and stay home allowing the #LunaticFringe to #elect #villageidiottrump as the new #king & wannabe #savior #doom is a hard feeling to avoid. If we can at least provide some #darkcomedy relief to the world I suppose that's something but sadly it doesn't reduce the existential threat posed by the #EmperorWithNoClothes
I think that #Trump & his followers are the issue here.
Not #democrats
Not #uncommitted
Not #libertarian
We just need to suck it up and work together.
Once things settle we can go back to struggling with the comparatively minor differences we all have.
Or...we can go on being divided by Trump's rhetoric.
From my perspective, I have no interest in blocking or anything else, we have a lot in common.
#Democrats , #Uncommitted disaffected #Republicans , #Independents , #Libertarians I really don't care other than we need to pull back from the #authoritarian fringe.
Too many labels, not enough #collaboration
I think that the #uncommitted group made an error, either strategically, conceptually or....something else.
Getting into pejoratives, blame and anything else at this point is a waste of energy.
We are where we are, we need to get to where we, the #USA, need to be.
Please, let's leave the #blamegame behind and focus on a path that can reduce the damage from the current regime.
Handy post to share with any liberal playing the 'aren't you sorry you didn't vote for Harris?" tune...
#Democrats #Liberals #KamalaHarris #Trump #Uncommitted #Election2024
Ah well, at least their hearts were in the right place
@palestine …every single #Uncommitted vote, 100% vindicated. all because of Democrat fecklessness.
Ah, ce n'est pas une information que les Démocrates se sont empressés de commenter, pas plus que les républicains d'ailleurs, ni aucun média dominant en France.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/harris-gaza
Une études des plus sérieuses (https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/postelection-polling) a révélé mercredi que parmi les 19 millions d'électeurs qui avaient voté pour Biden en 2020 mais pas en 2024, pour plus d'1/3 d'entre eux, c'est la position du gouvernement démocrate de soutien absolu à #Israël qui avait motivé leur choix.
Dans les états qui ont basculé (swing states) de Biden à Trump en 2024, 20% des votants donnent GAZA comme 1ère raison de l'abandon de leur vote démocrate.
En bref, si l’administration #Biden et en particulier le NDC, n'avait pas pris les électeurs arabes, musulmans ou anti-sionnistes comme une force mal organisée et captive, Kamala #Harris serait aujourd'hui la 1ère femme dirigeant les USA.
Mais ça, faut surtout pas en parler, les gens risqueraient de réaliser qu'ensemble 'ils sont puissants et qu'à l'avenir, compter sans eux c'est perdre les élections.
@izumitelj My question still stands unanswered: Where are the #uncommitted and the #uncommitedmovement now? No one protesting against #imperialism of the incoming US administration? No? Yes? Maybe? Not important because no clicks and media attention when you actually have to stand up - or it doesn’t matter because threats are issued towards indigenous people of #Mesoamerica and the #Arctic circle
@ashtime Well you were obviously implicating #uncommitted should all have voted Democrats and Kamala. I believe that the main difference is that you are just now starting to realize that really awful people got power, while #uncommitted already processed that [funding and participating in #genocide really is the end]. Until you realize that those people are your brightest and most passionate comrades, you will get nowhere.
I ask myself where are the #uncommitted when the #dictator they helped to elect is talking invading other countries, flattening #Gaza - while his #billionaire boss is organizing talkshows with actual #nazis? #hypocrisy #idiocracy #propaganda
So, everyone who thought Kamala wouldn't end the situation in Gaza, who's convinced that she tells Biden what to do (both wrong, but whatever)... Stick this in your pipe 'n smoke it. Fools. You should have voted for her. Trump would never have done this for you and you know it. He'll probably also find some way to screw this up, just like he always does. Hope you're happy with the way he's going to trash this country, all because you refused to vote... BTW, a lot of you are going to wind up getting deported. Enjoy the flight home to finding nothing but misery.
"60-day ceasefire starts in Israel as death toll passes 44,000"
The people who discouraged voting are the same people who thought Tulsi Gabbard should be president.
‘The movement is not over’: leaders of #Uncommitted look ahead at organizing during #Trump term
While disappointed, leaders say #Democratic party stuck with ‘status quo’ instead of listening to voter concerns
from #TheGuardian #Guardian
Melissa Hellmann
Sun 10 Nov 2024 08.00 EST
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/10/uncommitted-movement-leaders-organizing-trump?CMP=share_btn_url
#NotAnotherBomb
#StopArmingIsrael
#RejectAIPAC #BDS
#CeasefireNow #EndUSAidToIsrael #DivestFromIsrael
#StopGazaGenocide
#RestoreFundsToUNRWA
#WestBankUnderAttack
#EndTheOccupation #SettlersOut
#PalestinianLivesMatter
#FreePalestine #LetGazaLive
#SolidarityWithPalestine is #NotAntisemitism
#EqualRightsForAllFromTheRiverToTheSea is #NotAntisemitic
#JewHatredHurtsPalestine
#IsraelWarCrimes #ArrestNetanyahuAndGallant
#USHandsOffICC
#Gaza #Israel #Palestine #MiddleEast #WestAsia #politics
#USA #US #USPolitics #USElection #KamalaHarris #DemocraticParty #Biden
#media #news #press @palestine @israel
@drahardja I hope the #Uncommitted folks are dizzy with shame.
#Gaza News:
Biden Administration finally laying down a red line for the #Netanyahu regime: deescalate the attacks on #Palestine, or face suspension of military aid. This comes, as expected, after the death of Sinwar, the stated goal of the Biden administration's involvement in a military operation rife with #WarCrimes, which many consider attempted #genocide by the Netanyahu regime.
While we don't know what change Biden will accept, nor what the consequences will actually be, the situation in Gaza now hinges on the US election: if Harris wins, Netanyahu faces a much more aggressive critic than Biden, but, in the words of one official, "If Trump wins, I guess the Israeli response will say F-You". Trump, an #islamophobic racist, has promised larger bombs and to allow the annexation of not only Gaza, but the #WestBank and parts of #Lebanon.
The question remains: will the #uncommitted "#GenocideJoe" movement turn out to save #Palestinian lives by voting for Kamala Harris?
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/01/gaza-humanitarian-crisis-israel-us-pressure
In your example, I read that they don't disagree on the causal explanation #NakbaHarris => #Uncommitted => #Michigan lost, nor really on which step of it "made more difference".
They do have a moral divergence, though — about which actor was right or wrong.
Are terms like "explanations", "simplification" or "importance of facts" meant to cover this? I'd rather call this differing "values" or "conceptions of ethics".
@andrewstroehlein
*Universal* human rights?
Sorry but neither candidate is likely to support that. Only, one will support more rights for a larger group of people.
