Mike Meile
the card is a nice idea. i've found a source for "kipisi"--the word is Inuktitut, composed of kipi-, "cut," and a detransitivizing suffix, -si-. The whole would mean "cut (something,)" with the thing cut being out-of-focus.
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Toki Pona Wikipedia talk page
new roots?
I've found one of the two new roots, pan, but not the other. This is just the kind of thing someone might come here for. Anyone know what the other one is? kwami (talk) 22:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
From Sonjaaa's talk page:
pan is from Chinese for rice. esun is from Akan. I forgot the other ones.--Sonjaaa (talk) 09:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! (Silly me, I thought pan was from Spanish bread.) kwami (talk) 19:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Is esun just market/shop/store, or can it also be a verb buy/sell/barter? Also, do you have the Akan form? The closest I can come is a verb 'to value', but it's not a good match. Thanks, kwami (talk) 18:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi again. I've checked out another Akan dictionary, but still can't find anything that resembles esun. Do you remember the Akan form? kwami (talk) 07:07, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I found edwam 'at market', from edwa 'market'. Could this be it? Thanks, kwami (talk) 07:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I dunno. My source was a taxi driver, and he said something like "edjum" ;) --Sonjaaa (talk) 22:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I bet that's it, then. The full form is e-dwa-mu, where dw is approx. [dʒ], and one person I asked said this does get shortened to something like [edʒum]. (mu is the locative; I don't know what the e is.) kwami (talk) 23:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
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I'm looking for the etymology of the old TP pronoun 'iki' (he, she, it, they)
it is replaced by 'ona' probably to avoid the confusion with 'ike' (bad, complicated)
I thought this one would be easy to find, but jea, was I wrong !
The only etymon I can come up with until now is the Javanese 'iki' which means "this, that" ..
http://learn101.org/javanese_grammar.php
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kapa
< Dutch or Afrikaans 'kaap'
cape, headland
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kaap
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kapa
< Portuguese 'capa'
(geology) a top layer of rock
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/capa
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apeja
< maybe from Portuguese 'apejar'
Fill up with embarrassment (shame or embarrassment, shyness).
https://www.dicionarioinformal.com.br/apejar/
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apeja
< Finnish 'häpeä' (shame, disgrace, dishonor, reproach)
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Novel creations
2: e, unpa (phonesthetic)
Unknown
5: nasa,[29] and the obsolete roots kapa (protuberance), iki (a pronoun), leko (block, stairs), and kan (with).
note
[29] ↑ Said to be from Tok Pisin "nasau", but this has not been confirmed. It does not appear in dictionaries and has not been recognized by Tok Pisin speakers.
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Other languages
5: esun 'store' (Akan, from edwamu [edʒum] 'at market', from dwa [dʒwa] 'market'), kulupu (Tongan kulupu, from English group), laso (Welsh glas 'sky, blue-green'), moku 'eat' (Japanese phonesthetic モグモグ(食べる) mogu mogu (taberu) 'munch'), pana 'give' (Swahili pana 'to give to each other')
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Multiple languages
4: a (A!, ah!, etc. in all the above), o (English O!, Esperanto ho!, French ô!, etc.; also the Georgian vocative case suffix -ო -o), mi (English me, Tok Pisin mi, Esperanto mi, Dutch mij, Croatian me ~ mi), mama (Georgian მამა mama 'father'; most of the other languages above mama, maman, etc. 'mother')
Mandarin
6 (one shared): jo (有 yǒu 'to have'), kon (空气 kōngqì 'air'), pan 'grain, cereal product' (饭 fàn 'rice'; also Cantonese 飯 faahn; cf. Spanish pan 'bread'), seme (什么 shénme 'what?'), sin (新 xīn 'new'), sinpin (前边 qiánbian 'front')
Cantonese
4 (one shared): jan (人 yàhn 'person'), ko (膏 gòu 'fat, ointment'), ni (呢 nì 'this'), pan 'grain, cereal product' (飯 faahn 'rice'; also Mandarin 饭 fàn; cf. Spanish pan 'bread')
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Georgian
8: ala (არა ara 'no, not'), anu (ანუ anu 'or'), kili (ხილი xili 'fruit'), seli (ცხელი tsxeli 'hot'), sewi (ზევით zevit 'up'), sona (ცოდნა tsodna 'to know'), soweli (ცხოველი tsxoveli 'animal'), tan (დან dan 'from')
English
These roots were taken directly from English. Their semantics, however, may differ substantially. For example, tawa comes from "toward", but can mean "to go to".
10 (two shared): jelo (yellow), jaki (yucky), mani (money), mu (moo!), mun (moon), pilin (feeling; also Tok Pisin pilim), sike (circle), supa (English/French surface), tawa (towards), tu (two), wan (one)
Acadian French
11 (two shared): anpa (en bas 'down'; cf. English on base), kule (couleur 'colour'), kute (écouter 'listen'; cf. English 'scout, auscultate'), lete (fret/frette 'cold'; French froid), len (linge 'linens'), monsi (mon tchu/tchul 'my ass'; French mon cul), moli (mourir 'die'; cf. English mortal), pini (finis 'finished'; also Tok Pisin pinis), pipi (bibitte), supa (English/French surface 'surface'), telo (de l'eau 'some water'; cf. English gardyloo), waso (oiseau 'bird'; cf. obsolete English enoisel)
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Dutch
Most of these are cognate with their English translations.
11: akesi (hagedis 'lizard'), ale/ali (al, alle 'all'), ante (ander 'other'), awen (houden 'hold'), en (en 'and'), kepeken (gebruiken, bruiken 'use'; cf. English 'brook', as in "could brook no equal"), lape (slapen 'sleep'), loje (rooie, rood 'red'), sitelen (schilderen 'picture, paint, portray'; cf. Eng. dial. sheld 'particolored'), weka (weg 'way, path, away'), wile (willen 'want')
Esperanto
Most of these come from English or Romance.
13 (one shared): ilo (ilo 'tool', from English/Romance suffix -il, -ile), ijo (io 'thing'), la (la 'the', from French/Italian la), li (li 'he', from French lui, Italian egli), musi (amuzi 'to amuse', French amuser), mute (multe 'many'; cf. English multitude), pali (fari 'to do, to make'; cf. Italian fare), pona (bona 'good'; cf. English bona fide), sama (sama 'same', also Finnish sama), selo (ŝelo 'skin, peel', from English shell), suno (suno 'sun', from English sun), tenpo (tempo 'time', from Italian (& English) tempo), tomo (domo 'house'; cf. English domestic, domicile)
Croatian
The body-part words come from Croatian.
14: kalama (galáma 'fuss, noise'; cf. English clamour), lawa (glava 'head'), luka (rúka 'arm, hand'), lupa (rupa 'hole'), nasin (náčin 'manner'), noka (nòga 'leg'), oko (òko 'eye'; cf. English ocular), olin (volim 'I love'; cf. English volition), ona (ona 'she'), palisa (pàlica 'stick'; cf. English palisade), poka (bòka, genitive of bòk 'side, flank'), sijelo (tìjelo 'body, flesh'), utala (ùdarati 'beat'; cf. udara ('strike'?)), uta (ústa 'mouth'
Finnish
17 (one shared): ike (ilkeä 'bad'), kala (kala 'fish'), kasi (kasvi 'plant'), kin (-kin 'even, any'), kiwen (kiven, genitive of kivi 'stone'), linja (linja 'line'; cf. English 'linear'), lipu (lippu 'banner, ticket, flag'), ma (maa 'land'), mije (miehen, genitive of mies 'man'), nena (nenä 'nose'), nimi (nimi 'name'), pimeja (pimeä 'dark'), sama (sama 'same'; also Esperanto sama), sina (sinä 'thou'), suli (suuri 'big'), wawa (vahva 'strong'), walo (valo 'light' (not dark), valko- 'white' (in compound words), valkoinen 'white')
Tok Pisin
All but one of these derive ultimately from English.
18: insa (insait, from Eng. inside), kama (kamap, Eng. come up), ken (ken, Eng. can), lili (liklik 'small'), lon (long 'at', from Eng. along), lukin (lukim, Eng. look 'em), meli (meri 'woman', from Eng. Mary), nanpa (namba, Eng. number), open (open, Eng. open), pakala (bagarap, Eng. bugger up), pi (bilong 'of', from Eng. belong), pilin (pilim, Eng. feel 'em), pini (pinis, Eng. finish), poki (bokis, Eng. box), suwi (swit, Eng. sweet), taso (tasol 'only, but', from Eng. that's all), toki (tok, Eng. talk)
Also obsolete pata (brata, from Eng. brother)
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Although only 14 roots (12%) are listed as derived from English, a large number of the Tok Pisin, Esperanto, and other roots are transparently cognate with English, raising the English-friendly portion of the vocabulary to about 30%. The portions of the lexicon from other languages are 15% Tok Pisin, 14% Finnish, 14% Esperanto, 12% Croatian, 10% Acadian, 9% Dutch, 8% Georgian, 5% Mandarin, 3% Cantonese; one root each from Welsh, Tongan (an English borrowing), Akan, and an uncertain language (apparently Swahili); four phonesthetic roots (two which are found in English, one from Japanese, and one which was made up); and one other made-up root (the grammatical particle e).
