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TWEAK: Schön langsam verkümmern die Scrollbalken in den Browsern und Anwendungen von Windows zu schier unsichtbaren schmalen Strichen 🤦 – das kommt dabei raus, wenn man DesignerInnen an Userinterfaces rumpfuschen lässt
🛠️ Eine Kombination aus Firefox- und Windows-Einstellungen liefert die Lösung

Scrollbars are slowly shrinking into barely visible lines across browsers and Windows apps - a solution

#Firefox #Windows11 #Usability #UIFail #Scrollbars #Barrierefreiheit #accessibility

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Firefox Scrollleisten sichtbar & breiter machen unter Windows 10 und 11
Wenn die Scrollleisten in Firefox zu schmal oder unsichtbar sind, kannst du sie so dauerhaft sichtbar und breiter m
1. Öffne Firefox und gib in die Adresszeile ein:
about:config
2. Suche folgende Einstellungen und setze sie wie folgt:
a. widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.style = 0
(klassische Scrollleisten aktivieren)
b. widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.size.override = 16
(feste Breite für Scrollleisten einstellen)
c. widget.non-native-theme.win.scrollbar.use-system-size = true
(Systemgröße übernehmen)
3. Öffne nun die Windows-Einstellungen (nicht Systemsteuerung!):
a. Windows-Taste + I drücken
b. Zu: Barrierefreiheit > Visuelle Effekte
c. Aktiviere: „Scrollleisten immer anzeigen“
Diese Kombination sorgt dafür, dass Firefox die Scrollleisten dauerhaft sichtbar und deutlich breiter anzeigt.

#Mastodon #Question :
Is there a way to stop the scroll bars (both vertical and horizontal) from vanishing when the mouse is moved away from them?! It seems idiotic that you have to close in on the bar slowly to wake it up and be able to see where the actual 'scroll cursor' is to grab it in order to make a fine adjustment. It's not like they would take up any extra space if they were visible all the time.
#ScrollBars

Is there a Campaign to Restore #Scrollbars?

I don't understand why anyone would want to hide them

🤬😡🤬😡

One of the replies also covers making the scrollbars always visible as well.
https://social.treehouse.systems/@mgorny/112751700910090648 #firefox #scrollbars #ui

“#Scrollbars tell you how long a page is by screenfuls (number of viewports), while also telling you how many screenfuls remain from your current position… Once you see the text size, the spacing, understand the header & maybe footer size, and consider how quickly you read, you will have a good sense if the page is something you can skip, skim, or tuck in to read. I bet you already do that without consciously thinking.”

Scrollbars are not visual clutter.

https://adrianroselli.com/2024/09/under-engineered-estimated-reading-time-feature.html

TIL je kunt scrollbars (schuifbalken) altijd aan hebben staan. Ik dacht dat alle software-makers gewoon irritant waren en overal de scrollbar onzichtbaar maakte. Maar je kunt het in Windows en Mac zelf instellen.

Windows:
Instellingen -> Toegankelijkheid -> Visuele effecten -> Altijd schuifbalken weergeven
Mac: zie link

Waarom mensen denken dat het handig is om scrollbars te verstoppen snap ik echt niet.

Hier vond ik deze waardevolle kennis: https://adrianroselli.com/2024/09/under-engineered-estimated-reading-time-feature.html

#scrollbars #lifeHack

- in the address bar, type about:config and press enter
- search for widget.gkt-overlay-scrollbars.enabled, and set it to false, to keep scroll bars from hiding
- set widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.style to 4, to make scroll bars rectangular
- set widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.size.override to 24, to make scroll bars wide
- set general.autoScroll to true, to enable "middle mouse button scrolling"
- install the Custom Scrollbars addon (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/custom-scrollbars) to change to colour of scroll bars (global and site-specific)

#accessibility #scrollBars #makeScrollBarsVisibleAgain #firefox

Scrollbar discussion at OSNews
On the Scrollbars are Becoming a Problem article.

#ux #scrollbars

How can infinite amount of space be #visualized without #scrollbars?

Do you know of any examples?

I like big #ScrollBars and I cannot lie

Whoever thought it was ever a good idea to hide #scrollbars in any OS or application should be beaten with a copy of the 1987 edition of Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines. #Mozilla #Firefox, I'm looking at you. You too, #Apple.

Having difficulties using the thin #scrollbars in #Firefox 🧡 on #Windows11? 🔍

1. Type "about:config" in your address bar
2. Press "Accept the risk and continue"
3. Search for "widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.style"
4. Set the value to "4"
5. Close the "about:config" tab

A value of "4" corresponds to the Windows 10 styling of scrollbars, that is, the wider variant. Happy scrolling!

PS. Scrollbars auto-hide by default. There is a Windows setting to "always display scrollbars".

@zeldman These #scrollbars even work! Pretty nice. Always amused me when they went from fixed-height thumb to height based on percent of content displayed - because with a giant document like a whole book, the thumb gets reeeeealy small, you almost can't grab it to slide it up and down! Technology never really solved every aspect of how to do that right for all content. (Then infinite-scroll ruined everything.)