I see no moral judgements in this and even less references to solar panels.
Only someone with valuable expertise, sharing it openly, on a subject crucial for a viable democracy.
Ideally every citizen would understand enough to decide if we should fund something like #secushare — at last.
(if not necessarily all technical details)
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnunet-developers/2024-03/msg00024.html
#socialNetworks #HelloQuitteX #HelloQuitX #XMPP #decentralized
Just hoping the next point won't be "I knew we should have built #secushare to retreat to"…
Imagine Facebook, Whatsapp, Gmail and Skype rolled into one app, without the centralized surveillance and control.
Crazy?
Well, it hasn't been tried before, at least not our GNU way.
So let's give it a try.
Secushare
https://secushare.org
employs GNUnet for end-to-end encryption and anonymizing mesh routing (because it has a more suitable architecture than Tor or I2P) and applies PSYC on top (because it performs better than XMPP, JSON or OStatus) to create a distributed social graph.
Together, these technologies allow for distributed private social networking including more straightforward and secure e-mail, chat, exchange of content and a private web.
It could even work out as a safer choice for the Internet of Things.
Read more here:
https://secushare.org
La privacy radicale è appena sufficiente .
https://secushare.org/index-it
Immaginate Facebook, WhatsApp, Gmail e Skype riuniti insieme, senza la sorveglianza ed il controllo centralizzato.
Noi chiamiamo questo secushare, una struttura (framework) per l'interazione sociale sufficientemente sicura. Esso è sorto dopo aver realizzato che non esiste una tecnologia soddisfacente per affrontare i problemi che abbiamo delineato nel documento «FSW 2011» dal titolo "«Scalabilità & Paranoia in un social network decentralizzato»". Al momento abbiamo assunto di essere paranoici, ma Snowden ci ha detto che non eravamo abbastanza paranoici.
Potete leggere di più su SECUSHARE in italiano qua:
https://secushare.org/index-it
#Mastadon and #federated social networks in general are cool and all, but I really think #SecuShare is the (distant) future.
I don’t believe it could ever make it off the ground in a capitalist system, due to a number of reasons, but installing it on literally every device by default, then managing the code through a system of liquid democracy seems like it’d be an easy W for humanity.
#GNUnet #libre #FOSS #Opensource #internet #distributednetwork
@cy
This is so true and such a shame! They have been around for two decade's soon?!
The issue appears to me that they intend to rebuild the internet stack from the bottom up and do this as part of university research.
So now and again some student codes up a nice application on top of it, which never goes anywhere.
I've been dreaming of hooking up the pretty telegram client to a #secushare server (which is again build on #gnunet... But who has all? that time...
@Arlodottxt @mala @unfa
@icedquinn Using #GNUnet's CADET (https://docs.gnunet.org/handbook/gnunet.html#CADET-Subsystem) and a #Loopix implementation would give you a fairly good mixnet, where each end-node also has a decent amount of cover traffic.
That hasn't been implemented yet afaik.
#secushare (https://secushare.org/) has a number of interesting things to say about GNUnet and the internet.
Also yes, non-CADET traffic *does* offer weaker guarantees than other onion networks. You could implement onions atop GNUnet.
15 reasons not to start using PGP
https://secushare.org/PGP
@realcaseyrollins @critical I’m waiting, too, but we’re likely to be waiting for a while longer.
I followed #Tox for a while, but I disappreciated the way the developers interacted with me, so I left. (That was years ago and I think the project has undergone some organisational changes since.)
A similar project is #Jami, whose developers I have found nicer to interact with. It is a GNU package, too, which is a plus. Technically it ought to be similar to Tox; in my experience, Tox used to have problems with calls but text messaging worked alright, while Jami used to have problems with text messaging but calls have always worked great. Jami’s text messaging has improved a lot since; it wouldn’t surprise me if the same were the case for Tox’s calls.
Really the main problem with P2P messaging seems to be persistence. Both the sender and the receiver have to be online at the same time for the message to be transmitted. That is never going to work reliably without a dense network of many nodes willing to hold the message, and possibly a way of determining which nodes are trustworthy to do so.
I’m putting most faith in the #GNUnet project, which among the few aims to change things from the ground up. The #secushare project has had a lot planned in that regard, but it has kind of stagnated while waiting for GNUnet to stabilise. Someone’s been working on another chat application built on top of GNUnet, which is being actively worked on, but I’m not sure what the long-term plans are.
Other than that, I know #Manyverse has some kind of functional microblogging, and #Matrix has had plans to enable peer-to-peer communication, but it’s still a federated network first and foremost, so I’m not sure how excited we should be about it. That’s about the surface-level knowlede I’ve got, at least.
#Secushare
secushare🄱🄾🅇
Decentralized*Distributed device management with transparent network encryption.
Encore du #SecuShare, le futur rézosocio de #GNUnet qui déchire sa race (parait-il). Apparemment toujours « en projet ».
@Shamar
I would say that #gnunet and #secushare are definitely challenging "the browser as an app platform". Hence the creation of all these different modules you list. The idea is to create a better internet, which will support a better application framework/platform. If we are ambitious and prescient enough to build one, that is.
The problem with #secushare and all the #distributed #technology out there is: It is sooo exciting and I'd love to contribute. But I got my own personal project I love and want to continue ... I have not enough time... therefore I have to restrict myself to one project. Sadly.
Good evening #fediverse how are you today? I'd love if you people switch over to the #distriverse ... for example scuttlebutt or (I hope it gets ready soonish) #secushare ! 😉
I really hope i will be able to talk to the #secushare people today #34c3
#TIL #secushare seems to be what I want: A secure, private, scalable social network with all the features I want.
Now I have to talk to these guys at #34c3 and check out how I can help.
I hope they are not like the stereotype GNU people.
