Does anyone here have experience with Strato HiDrive (#CloudStorage)?
Would you recommend it?
Is Proton Drive still an option post #AndyYen tweet?
Does anyone here have experience with Strato HiDrive (#CloudStorage)?
Would you recommend it?
Is Proton Drive still an option post #AndyYen tweet?
Proton-Chef: «Diese Entscheidung ist wirtschaftlicher Selbstmord fĂŒr die Schweiz»
#AndyYen leitet den sicheren #EMail-Dienst #Proton, eines der heissesten Start-ups der Schweizer #TechBranche. Doch der Unternehmer ist wĂŒtend ĂŒber den geplanten Ausbau der staatlichen #Ăberwachung und schliesst den Wegzug ins Ausland nicht aus.
đ A good detailed post about Proton and it's CEO Andy Yen, suggesting that his posts were misinterpreted and overreacted to.
đ Alt link to bypass Medium: https://scribe.rip/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
I hope we continue this discussion. I do think we should hold tech accountable but it's also very easy to overreact without a full understanding. (Same goes for the Mozilla Firefox Privacy Policy changes)
Il faut se calmer avec le #drama #Proton.
Andy Yen le propriĂ©taire de proton, une entreprise proposant des services en ligne (mail, calendrier, drive) respectueux de votre vie privĂ©e, a publiĂ© un message sur twitter/X expliquant que si il y a 10 ans les dĂ©mocrates sâopposaient aux dĂ©rives des compagnies de la big tech (comprendre les Gafam), la situation est aujourdâhui inverse et ce sont les rĂ©publicains qui jouent dĂ©sormais ce rĂŽle, le tout en citant un message de Trump.
Great pick by @realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.
Ce message qui sâapparente clairement Ă un soutien Ă Donald Trump, est assez risible lorsquâon sait que tous les patrons des plus grosses boites de la Tech aux Ătats Unis ont apportĂ© leur soutien servile au milliardaire orange. Il est dâautant plus incomprĂ©hensible que Proton Ă©tant hĂ©bergĂ©e en Suisse, lâentreprise est assez Ă lâabri dâune quelconque influence de lâadministration Trump. Quelles sont les motivations dâAndy Yen pour avoir Ă©crit ce message ? Le pense-t-il vraiment ? Souhaite-t-il se mettre Ă lâabri en cas de coup dur ? MystĂšre.
Ce que je ne comprends pas non plus ce sont les nombreux messages dâactivistes blancs bien portants expliquant que suite Ă cette dĂ©claration il faut arrĂȘter dâutiliser les services de Proton.
On se calme.
DĂ©jĂ , ce nâest pas Proton qui est favorable Ă Trump câest Andy Yen. Si celui-ci est bien le CEO de lâentreprise, ce nâest pas non plus lui qui dĂ©cide de tout. Proton est une entreprise dont lâactionnaire majoritaire est une fondation. Au conseil dâadministration de cette fondation on retrouve Andy Yen mais aussi avec 4 autres personnes. On peut sans aucun doute affirmer quâAndy Yen a une Ă©norme influence chez proton mais ce nâest pas lui qui dĂ©cide de tout. Il y a des gardes fous. En gros, attendez de voir si proton part en sucette aprĂšs ces dĂ©clarations pour dĂ©crĂ©ter que Proton est dĂ©sormais une entreprise au service des nazis.
Ensuite, dĂ©clarer que Proton est dĂ©sormais Ă fuir parce que son patron a fait une dĂ©claration de soutien au parti rĂ©publicain, câest non seulement faire un procĂšs dâintention Ă Andy Yen â Ă la limite pourquoi pas, jâai jamais Ă©tĂ© contre un peu de polĂ©mique â mais aussi Ă lâensemble du staff proton, ce qui est plus discutable.
Enfin, ce drama proton câest quand mĂȘme bien un putain de problĂšme de riches. Ăa fait 15 ans que je travaille Ă la promotion et Ă la diffusion de services sĂ©curisĂ©s auprĂšs de militants, journalistes et activistes, que ce soient les services de proton, Tuta, Signal, NextCloud ou dâautres. Proton fournit des services ergonomiques, faciles Ă utiliser, sĂ©curisĂ©s et open source. Si en tant quâexpert en sĂ©curitĂ© vivant confortablement dans un pays libre, le fait que le patron de Proton fasse des dĂ©clarations pro rĂ©publicains vous dĂ©range, trĂšs bien, quittez proton, franchement je comprends. Cela ne signifie pour autant que tout le monde doit le faire.
Migrer dâun service Ă un autre prend du temps, nĂ©cessite des compĂ©tences et nâest pas Ă la portĂ©e de tout le monde. Si vous kiffez changer de messagerie trous les 3 mois, allez-y faites vous plaisir. Mais toutes celles et ceux qui utilisent aujourdâhui Proton nâont pas forcĂ©ment les compĂ©tences ou les moyens pour migrer de services dĂšs quâun CEO publie un message sur Twitter. Quelques soient les opinions politiques rĂ©elles ou supposĂ©es de son patron, les services de proton rĂ©pondent Ă ce jour Ă un rĂ©el besoin de nombreux journalistes, militant.es, organisations et mĂ©dias. Le jour oĂč on aura la certitude que Proton est en train de partir en sucette â et ce sera possible car le code des services de Proton est open source donc auditable â alors oui, il faudra partir. En attendant, ce drama proton est un procĂšs dâintention mal placĂ© qui fait plus de mal Ă la protection de la vie privĂ©e quâautre chose.
Proton câest comme les huĂźtres, câest pas parce que tâaimes pas quâil faut en dĂ©goĂ»ter les autres.
Proton Says Itâs "Politically Neutral" While Praising Republican Party. "It's reasonable to worry that tech companies' backbone for protecting users in this way might soften when they get too politically involved with any one administration," said Andrew Crocker, EFF's surveillance litigation director. https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/ #Proton #ProtonMail #AndyYen
Fuck #AndyYen and @protonprivacy. Fascist book lickers.
What happened to nuance?
It was not very smart of Andy Yen to tweet about anything to do with politics but it seems like everyone is going into a cramp and cannot believe there is more than black and white.
I thought the Ferdiverse was very different from Twitter but I believe I was mistaken.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/
Wer sein E-mail-Konto bei #protonmail hat, sollte jetzt vielleicht langsam mal ĂŒber den Wechsel zu einem anderen E-mail-Anbieter (z.B. posteo.de) nachdenken:
*SpongeBob time card voice* Six months earlierâŠ
https://pivot-to-ai.com/2024/07/18/proton-mail-goes-ai-security-focused-userbase-goes-what-on-earth/
like, almost literally six monthsâŠit's like he was just waiting to pull this shit.
If customers lose trust in #AndyYen shouldnât he step aside for the good of this #privacy focused company @protonprivacy ?! Seems like thereâs a #ceo trust problem not a company problem.
Andy Yen responds to criticism of his endorsement of Trump's antitrust pick and his criticism of Dems by... not addressing any of those things.
He apologizes for sharing his personal views in the wrong forum (labeled as "official communication"), blames social media, and promises to be more careful about tweeting in the future.
Nothing about sucking up to Trump or providing an even bigger fig leaf for Trump's government destruction agenda.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/
#trump #uspol #andyyen #proton #protonmail #nonapology #update
Ah, Proton....I know you're supposedly protected by a Swiss non-profit, but your main man now has Cheeto orange stained lips...and the trust has hit the floor harder than New Glenn's main booster!
Disappointing...really fucking disappointing
Andy Yenâs playing damage control on Reddit, and itâs not going well.
Itâs also not clear whether heâs speaking on behalf of the entire group or not, and he hasnât clarified.
@protonprivacy @jonah This is highly disappointing. #Trump basically has #ElonMusk and #MarkZuckerberg in his pocket. Both donated $1 million to Trump's inauguration fund, as did #Google. What makes you think he's going to stand up for you, a foreign business and competitor? I had high hopes for Proton. You should leave your nose out of politics and fire Andy Yen if you want to save yourselves.
#Proton #ProtonVPN #AndyYen
I'm really glad I trusted my instinct and didn't get #ProtonMail. @protonprivacy defending the comments of #AndyYen is just... extra special.
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