#AdversarialInteroperability

Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow – No trackers, no ads. Black type, white background. Privacy policy: we don't collect or retain any data at all ever period.pluralistic.net@web.brid.gy
2026-01-14
JWcph, Radicalized By Decencyjwcph@helvede.net
2026-01-13

RE: mamot.fr/@pluralistic/11588897

"I know it's out of step with the times, but all I have is ideas that make money, make us safer, make us richer, and make our technology better..." - @pluralistic

Fun fact: This doesn't just apply to Canada. There's a huge pile of money on the table - seems stupid to just leave it there.

#AdversarialInteroperability #tech #business

Hans-Christoph Steinereighthave@librem.one
2026-01-12

Adversarial interoperability should be legal. Users should be able to use software on their own devices the way they want to. The tariff wars have opened up a new political opportunity to make that happen. @pluralistic explains it well:

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

#BigTech #FreeSoftware #FOSS #AdversarialInteroperability #startups #UserFreedom

2026-01-02

Sempre per cominciare bene l'anno vale la pena di ascoltare la conferenza di Cory Doctorow "A post-American, enshittification-resistant internet": pluralistic.net/2026/01/01/39c
tenuta ad Amburgo il 28 dicembre 2025.
Allo stesso link si può leggere anche la trascrizione

#enshittification #CoryDoctorow #AdversarialInteroperability #Internet #GlimpseOfHope

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@pluralistic

Trump has staged an unscheduled, midair rapid disassembly of the global system of trade. Ironically, it is this system that prevented all of America's trading partners from disenshittifying their internet: the US trade representative threatened the world with tariffs unless they passed laws that criminalized reverse-engineering and modding. By banning "adversarial interoperability," America handcuffed the world's technologists, banning them from creating the mods, hacks, alt clients, scrapers, and other tools needed to liberate their neighbours from the enshittificatory predations of the ketamine-addled zuckermuskian tyrants of US Big Tech. Well, when life gives you SARS, you make sarsaparilla. The Trump tariffs are here, and it's time to pick the locks on the those handcuffs and set the world's hackers loose on Big Tech. Happy Liberation Day, everyone!
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2025-10-20

Pluralistic: The mad king's digital killswitch (20 Oct 2025)

fed.brid.gy/r/https://pluralis

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2025-10-15

Pluralistic: Microsoft, Tear Down That Wall! (15 Oct 2025)

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2025-09-10

One of my favorite examples of #AdversarialInteroperability (as championed by @pluralistic and others): a site pop complains about me using an ad blocker, I put the site into the browser’s Reader Mode, and get around the annoying modal popup.

I didn't realize this until just this morning, but #AdversarialInteroperability and #CounterAntiDisintermediation are related. @tomjennings.tldr.nettime.org.ap.brid.gy @dmytri.to . #FOSS is double-edge, but I am 💯 on standards and portable runtimes (HTML, CSS, JS, #Deno). www.eff.org/deeplinks/20...

'IBM PC Compatible': How Adver...

Hans-Christoph Steinereighthave@librem.one
2025-07-31

@rl_dane thank you for #NecroReplying, this is still worth discussing! Is there some mechanism with #RCS that enforces which implementations are allowed to interoperate? If it is a standard protocol, it seems that #AdversarialInteroperability should work just fine. Google's implementation is just an app, isn't it?

2025-06-08

I'm very impressed with #Murena /e/ OS's updates to Advanced Privacy in /e/ OS 3.0.

Just now, I got a notification about "a new spy in town". An app I installed since the /e/ OS upgrade has made it into the new Advanced Privacy weekly report.

This is really helpful feedback, highlighting ubiquitous tracking.

I minimise my use of apps that are not #FOSS, and rely on /e/ OS to block all known trackers (which it does by default). Often the corresponding website will do as good a job, and Advanced Blocking appears to work for web-based trackers too.

#SurveillanceEconomy #AdversarialInteroperability #InfoSec #Android

A screenshot of an information-dense page from /e/ OS's Advanced Privacy system app.


The page is titled "Manage apps' trackers" (that apostrophe is superfluous - it's perfectly grammatical to say "Manage app trackers".)

This page is headed with explanatory text: 

Trackers are pieces of code hidden in apps. They collect your data and follow your activity 24/7. See below all app tracking activity in your device. 

...then a "Know more" link.

The "Weekly report" panel reports: 

New Spy in Town!
This week Eurowings introduced a fresh tracker.
View tracker

"Eurowings" and "View tracker" are links.


There's a 
"Spread the word!" panel with the text 
"Share this report and show others what's happening!". I'm not using that link here.

This is followed by three tabs, for Day, Month and Year reports; Year is selected.

The tab contains  a graph with the title "Leaks in the last 12 months". The y axis is labeled "16583" and the x axis has a years worth of data, by month, in bar charts, showing blocked leaks and allowed leaks. There are no allowed leaks.

124 detected trackers
0 allowed

The next panel is "Trackers Activity Summary"; the viewport ends here.This screenshot is the summary for the app with new trackers that appeared thus week. The title is "Eurowings", with the subheading "Eurowings tracking summary"

Two panels display: 

TOTAL 4 Detected trackers
BLOCKED 4 Trackers

A third panel displays:

BLOCKED LEAKS 28
0 allowed leaks

Then a panel with a toggle control, toggled on by default, is titled "Manage tracker". The toggle label is 
"Toggle on trackers control"

This is followed by an explanatory panel:

Note: in some rare cases, disabling tracker can cause some apps to malfunction. You can choose specifically which trackers you want to block.Know more.

The rest of the viewport contains more toggles, all enabled by default:

Toggle off the trackers you want to allow:

Adobe Audience Manager
Google Firebase Analytics
SOASTA mPulse

...and so on.
2025-01-10

In the spirit of @pluralistic’s #AdversarialInteroperability I decided to start monitoring how much time and energy I devote to browsers vs apps on my phone. iOS has a convenient feature for this. If you see a browser or other relatively grassroots tool above dedicated apps, I suspect that’s a good thing…or at least I hope it is :)

:mima_rule: Mima-samamima@makai.chaotic.ninja
2024-12-22

For someone who has been an active witness of the early days of the internet, it's pretty surprising to see this person be unenthusiastic about adversarial interop, which is one of the reasons why #Gopher became a huge thing (and also one of the unintentional weapons the web used to ironically kill it), why we have an #openweb today and why it persists despite efforts by the big players to extinguish it. ​:seija_coffee:​

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/02/gopher-when-adversarial-interoperability-burrowed-under-gatekeepers-fortresses
https://boingboing.net/2019/10/02/plug-and-play.html

#AdversarialInteroperability

RE:
https://mastodon.social/users/jwz/statuses/113654149217156768

Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩benroyce
2024-03-31

@matthew_d_green

and now is trying to run into the with , and do to what they did to in 2010. with the same tactics:

1. a public excited friendly face of

2. drain of users

3. when the competitor is a dried husk, turn around and fanatically prevent any interop with on any level whatsoever

people need to understand what meta is

and have no illusions about what they have done, and what they will do

Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩benroyce
2024-03-29

when it comes to and the , people need to understand what is called

there are stories about how beat with the tactic, but it might be more useful on this topic to talk about how killed with . interop whose sole purpose, behind the excited "we're working together!" public facade, was to simply drain myspace of users faster:

phys.org/news/2010-11-myspace-

2024-01-13
Stephen Bakerprmam@mastodon.xyz
2023-12-12

#Beeper has called out Apple's doublespeak about user privacy. Group messages that include one non-Apple member revert to insecure SMS for the entire group. #Signal, on the other hand, decided to abandon SMS compatibility because it was too easy for users to erroneously believe that messages were secure. Not allowing iPhone-Android interoperability is not about preserving the customer experience but about maintaining the walled garden. #AdversarialInteroperability
blog.beeper.com/p/beeper-mini-

2023-12-07

#AdversarialInteroperability is one of the most reliable ways to protect users from predatory corporations: it's when someone reverse-engineers a product to reconfigure or mod it (interoperability) in ways its users like, but which its manufacturer objects to (adversarial):

eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adve

If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

pluralistic.net/2023/12/07/blu

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A screenshot of an early iMessage setup dialog showing that iMessage was a multiprotocol client.
toolbear#🌶️toolbear@tech.lgbt
2023-12-01

@mostaurelius @blackmastodon
My experience is that bookshop(.)org is receptive to kind, polite feedback if you think the steps above could use improvement. They'll do bookshop outreach if you ask them to, in case you know of an unlisted Black-owned store.

They use browser cookies and affiliate URLs (think of now defunct smile.amazon.com; I'm sure that was their model). Human frailty means you will eventually forget to check. Private browsing, clear cookies, switch device or browser, "*boop* what preferred bookstore?" 😖
I pointed this out via a decent email dialog with #BookshopDotOrg over 12 months ago. The fact that it still works in this deeply suboptimal way is intentional, if only intentional neglect.

Bookshop.org and libro.fm are absolutely part of the coalition in my mind. Both are fantastic candidates for #AdversarialInteroperability — like maybe a #Bookwyrm plugin or #Firefox browser extension — to smooth over the rough edges until they do the work on their end.

#Books #Bookshops #ChooseBookshops

toolbear#🌶️toolbear@tech.lgbt
2023-12-01

#Musician and #VideoEssay -ist Benn Jordan has named some of his videos in such a way that yt-dlp totally horks on them, because it fails to escape characters that are significant to the OS in terms of filenames AND (I suspect) might be exeucting sub-shells in the background and commands are failing due to special shell characters like ampersand (&) being unescaped.

And if true that this is intentional, I'm totally here for it. And if it's a happy accident that shows me a simple place I can contribute a bugfix / patch to the yt-dlp project, I'm totally here for that too.

ALSO, an excellent video, with an interesting digression about a survey. So much to take in:

youtube.com/watch?v=FEO0NVPyED

#YouTube #AdversarialInteroperability
#BennJordan #Music
#Humming

2023-11-09

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