I noticed that the #ChatMail relays have a `/metrics` page that lists the number of active users. This info is gathered through a cron job. So I decided to poll the known public servers every hour and see how large is the user-base of #DeltaChat on public servers and how does it fluctuates. I will publish the results in a few days when enough data is gathered, but for now, the code lives in this Git repo and any ideas/suggestions are very welcome:
#Chatmail
Another 30% increase in number of accounts on chtml.ca/chatma.li/chatmail.cc. Great to see more folks jumping into federated, decentralized, foss solutions.
bsd.cafe has a chatmail server! :--D
on this page
quick question to @stefano@bsd.cafe : is this running on BSD? afaik theres no docs by deltachat on freebsd/openbsd support...
#chatmail #deltachat #e2ee
on this page
quick question to @stefano@bsd.cafe : is this running on BSD? afaik theres no docs by deltachat on freebsd/openbsd support...
#chatmail #deltachat #e2ee
#deltachat #chatmail #signal #threema #matrix
Diese Grafik, die "Kommunikations-Resilienzkarte", veranschaulicht verschiedene Netzarchitekturen und Verbindungen jenseits des klassischen Internets.
Im Bild wird eine schematische Darstellung von Kommunikationswegen gezeigt, die sich in zwei Hauptbereiche gliedern: "Klassisches Internet" und "Jenseits des klassischen Internets". Der Bereich "Klassisches Internet" ist in die Unterkategorien "Internetgebunden" und "Internet-integriert" unterteilt. Unter "Internetgebunden" sind die Dienste Signal und Matrix aufgeführt, die mit einem gestrichelten Pfeil vom "Klassischen Internet" zu einem "Stammhub" verbunden sind. Dieser Stammhub ist als stilisierte Wolke mit Servern dargestellt und mit "Email (SMTP) DeltaChat" beschriftet. Unter "Internet-integriert" befinden sich die Dienste "DeltaChat P2P".
Der Bereich "Jenseits des klassischen Internets" erstreckt sich über den rechten Teil der Grafik und ist ebenfalls in "Internet-frei" und "Internet-integriert" gegliedert. Unter "Internetgebunden" sind die Dienste Chatmail und Yggmail (grüner Kreis) dargestellt, die ebenfalls über gestrichelte Pfeile mit dem Stammhub verbunden sind. Weiter unten im "Internet-freien" Bereich finden sich "Yggdrasil P2P-Netzwerk", "Tyr, Autocrypt DeltaChat" (verbunden mit einem Stammhub), "Meshtastic" (mit einem WLAN-Symbol) und "WiFi HaLow Bridge" (mit einem Haus-Symbol und einer WLAN-Antenne), was auf ein eigenständiges Mesh-Netz hindeutet. Die Verbindungen zwischen diesen Diensten sind ebenfalls durch gestrichelte Pfeile dargestellt. Am unteren Rand der Grafik verläuft eine horizontale Achse, die von "Mehr Kontrollierbar, Infrastrukturgebunden" auf der linken Seite zu "Mehr Eigenständig, Infrastrukturunabhängig" auf der rechten Seite übergeht.
Die Farbgebung ist in Blautöne für den linken Bereich (klassische Internetdienste) und in Grün-/Gelbtöne für den rechten Bereich (jenseits des klassischen Internets) gehalten. Die gesamte Atmosphäre ist sachlich und informativ, wie es für ein Diagramm zu erwarten ist, das technische Konzepte darstellt. Die Wolkensymbole deuten auf Cloud-basierte Dienste oder verteilte Netzwerke hin.
@robertmx I have also heard similar stories about matrix #selfhosting, I host a #chatmail server for #DeltaChat, it has +11k users, it runs on less than 2GB of RAM, around 1.7MB disk space per user, CPU is almost unused,
I don't have to do anything, no account registration or removal work, no data/messages removal work, no backups needed (even if the whole server is nuked it would have low impact, people would just auto-register again and not even notice)
it requires near zero maintenance cost, and very low hardware requirements, you can host thousands of users in the cheapest VPS
What is stopping #signal from becoming interoperable with #chatmail relays (i.e #deltachat)? Is there anything that makes it infeasible or undesirable, other than being technically difficult? @signalapp
@ArcaneSlime you're quite welcome. slack on, subg!
and for those who are seeking a break from all manners of judgy deities. join an established, legitimate, religious organization that's focused on serious business!
sell your soul!
or join a #deltachat #chatmail instance and inhale our propaganda like the sweet sweet nectar of the underworld
AFAIK the #Chatmail cmdeploy method by default works with Debian-only. In my previous post I mentioned about running my own #Chatmail server.
It runs natively on #FreeBSD 14/15 and supports running on either UFS or ZFS and Jails.
The chatmail port was created and maintained by Mark Felder. Here is his Github repo and instructions on how to set it up on #FreeBSD
The difference between cmdeploy on Debian and this cookbook is that the installation process is all done on the chatmail server itself.
There is also #DeltaChat support group related to the #Chatmail cookbook on FreeBSD here
It runs natively on #FreeBSD 14/15 and supports running on either UFS or ZFS and Jails.
The chatmail port was created and maintained by Mark Felder. Here is his Github repo and instructions on how to set it up on #FreeBSD
The difference between cmdeploy on Debian and this cookbook is that the installation process is all done on the chatmail server itself.
There is also #DeltaChat support group related to the #Chatmail cookbook on FreeBSD here
@cwdolunt FYI upcoming changes will make it awkward to use an email account with a ChatMail app like Delta Chat and still use it with legacy email clients. But you'll still be able to send plaintext email to people not yet using DC.
On the positive side, turns out there's a whole bunch of ChatMail apps;
@delta
I think it would be better to move these settings and also the deletion time of the messages on the server in the #DeltaChat menu. They are part of the server's settings if it is not a #Chatmail Relay.
There they would not disturb and compatibility would be maintained.
Тем, кто использовал свой основной почтовый ящик с #DeltaChat, пора переходить на #Chatmail.
Разработчики планируют в ближайшие недели удалить опции "Автоперемещение в папку Delta Chat" и "Загружать только из папки Delta Chat":
https://github.com/chatmail/core/issues/7648
В планах также скрыть заголовок "Chat-Version", по которому сейчас можно фильтровать сообщения Delta Chat.
Соответствующий раздел FAQ уже обновили:
https://delta.chat/ru/help#%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%83-%D0%BB%D0%B8-%D1%8F-%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81-%D1%8D%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%82%D1%8B-%D1%81-delta-chat
Looking into hosting a DeltaChat chatmail relay, i want to host it on a nixos server, but seems like there is no info on this or only abandoned projects for setting that up. Does anyone know any way to achieve this? :puniko_shy:
#deltachat #nixos #chatmail
My #DeltaChat #Chatmail relay is up and I have been using it for a month to test things. So far it works as expected. Runs in a #FreeBSD jail :>
If anyone in the Asia region would like to use it, drop me a message..
If anyone in the Asia region would like to use it, drop me a message..
discord:
- preparing for age verification
- centralized
- no e2ee
- monitored platform
- surveillance-ridden
- forced phone number validation
deltachat/chatmail:
- no logs
- e2ee
- decentralized
- federated
- relay-swapping
- multi-relay (become unstoppable!)
- no tracking
- relay operators see nothing
- no surveillance
the #deltachat and #chatmail teams are hard at work improving our ecosystem, client ui/ux, and building community!
download: https://delta.chat/en/download
run your own relay: https://github.com/chatmail/relay
bot ecosystem: https://deltachat-bot.github.io/public-bots/#/home
support forum: https://support.delta.chat/
Autocrypt post-quantum cryptography roadmap.
Q1 2026: Draft
Q2 2026: Implementation
Q3 2026: Testing
Q4 2026: Release
Source: https://autocrypt2.org/#/autocrypt-v2-status-and-roadmap
Resource: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocrypt
Website: https://docs.autocrypt.org
#Autocrypt #PQC #Encryption #E2EE #Privacy #InfoSec #CyberSecurity #Decentralized #Decentralization #Interoperable #OpenPGP #PGP #rPGP #Rust #OpenSource #FOSS #FreeSoftware #FLOSS #PostQuantum #Cryptography #DeltaChat #Chatmail #Chat #Messaging #Messenger #SelfHost #SelfHosting
очередное обновление talklink.fun
из нового:
-Плашки русифицированы.
-Обновлена политика конфиденциальности.
-Сделан раздел F.A.Q.
-Добавлены контакты для связи со мной.
-Добавлен футер в начале страницы.
#deltachat #selfhosting #chatmail #messenger #mail #e2eemessaging #e2ee
What is a good free alternative e-mail service to google, that I can use with chatmail-clients like deltachat?
I want to try experimenting with this stuff as an alternative to discord but, I only have one e-mail address, and it is recommended that you have a seperate e-mail for chatmail stuff as far as I can understand.
#blind #chatmail #fediverse
@mason @nathanael Erlang is cool, no question, but as to server software, postfix and dovecot are reliable as well. Apart from dovecot focusing mostly on enterprise and corporate deployments (like matrix) both are still solid software, and serve well as basis for #chatmail relay deployments. There are also interesting alternative transport relay stacks in popular use which is how it should be.
@seymour most #chatmail relays allow around up to 25MB, https://arcanechat.me allows around 50MB, but you still have to take in consideration to whom you are sending a message to, if their server have a limit lower than 50MB they will reject the message even if arcanechat.me allows it
currently sending big files is a well known limitation of #DeltaChat, in the future there could be other means to send big files, like using p2p connection
Client Info
Server: https://mastodon.social
Version: 2025.07
Repository: https://github.com/cyevgeniy/lmst