@me @shollyethan #liberachat is the 'fork' after the successful hostile takeover of #freenode.
#Freenode
A few years out... I'm still confused what the point of the Freenode reset was.
Like I get the takeover and the ops leaving and starting Libera Chat and Freenode taking over channels that promoted Libera Chat.
But wtf did they think a network reset would do? Like, if you're going to kick literally everyone, what was the point in taking over the network?
Możecie (lub nie) kojarzyć bajzel wokół przejęcia #Freenode. Niemniej, za sprawą otwartości protokołu #IRC, wiele projektów mogło przenieść się na #LiberaChat z ograniczonymi do minimum trudnościami.
Dobra wiadomość jest taka, że twojej zamkniętej platformy raczej nie czeka podobne przejęcie — bo już jest pod tego typu zarządem od samego początku. Co więc zrobisz, kiedy twój projekt nagle wyleci, i stracisz dostęp do wszystkich danych — włącznie z tymi, których nie powinieneś był tam trzymać? No cóż, rzucisz jakąś żenującym korpobełkotem typu "wyruszamy we wspaniałą podróż ku kolejnej zamkniętej platformie, nie zapomnijcie zainstalować kolejnej naruszającej prywatność 200 MiB apki, żeby uniknąć wykluczenia".
You may (or may not) recall the #Freenode takeover mess. However, thanks to #IRC being an open and widely supported protocol, many projects migrated to #LiberaChat with as little disruption as possible.
Good news is, your walled garden is unlikely to suffer the fate of Freenode — because it already is there, from day one. What are you going to do when your project suddenly gets banned and you lose access to everything — including all the data that you shouldn't have kept there in the first place? Of course, come up with some corporate bullshit of "join us on our illustrious journey to the next walled garden, and don't forget to install another 200 MiB privacy nightmare app not to be excluded from our community".
I've spent much of my time since Spring 2012 in #IRC. It's where I met some of my most important associates. However, I've largely kept to my own network, CoderNet, since mid-2017.
FWIW: I was involved as a bystander in the self-destruction of #Freenode and I haven't gone back to either of the offshoots since then.
I do spend some time in EdgyNet, the gamedev network that is run by Edgy McEdge aka Stella Valkyrie. I've known Edgy for about 8 years and I try to offer support.
I used to run an active 60-person channel in Freenode. Things change. These days, there is very little random discussion in my network or EdgyNet. However, IRC in general remains the go-to for simple, lightweight, and secure text chat [ provided that secure mode is used ].
In IRC, there is no corporation that believes it owns you, that focuses on selling flashy add-ons, and that relays everything which is said to other corporations and to the government.
The protocol is super-light. High-school students used to revel in making their very own IRC bots. It's also easy to add IRC support to game worlds and to keep an eye on the worlds that way.
One IRC issue is that a bouncer is helpful. Enter "bip". I run a tweaked "bip" setup and it works fine. For people who want a web gateway, I run TheLounge.
The remaining part is the question of the IRC client. For Linux and Windows, there's #HexChat, irssi, and weechat. Or just a web browser if an IRC network includes TheLounge. For Android, there's Revolution IRC. I don't have an iOS device, so I can't comment on that.
In short, IRC is great. If you'd like to talk to me in real-time, my network is presently:
Network name: CoderNet
IRC host: irc.oldcoder.org
IRC classic port: 6667
IRC secure port: 6697
Web gateway: irc.minetest.org
It isn't essential to join a channel, but if you make it into the network, try:
/join #ventures
To ping me, try:
/msg OldCoder Hello
I'm online 24 hours, some days, subtracting intermittent sleep, errands, or trips to different cities. The errands typically take two hours and the trips typically take a full day.
Illustration: GenAI. A deity offers IRC, the simple and sensible #FOSS chat system, to the viewer.
FWIW: I was involved as a bystander in the self-destruction of #Freenode and I haven't gone back to either of the offshoots since then.
I do spend some time in EdgyNet, the gamedev network that is run by Edgy McEdge aka Stella Valkyrie. I've known Edgy for about 8 years and I try to offer support.
I used to run an active 60-person channel in Freenode. Things change. These days, there is very little random discussion in my network or EdgyNet. However, IRC in general remains the go-to for simple, lightweight, and secure text chat [ provided that secure mode is used ].
In IRC, there is no corporation that believes it owns you, that focuses on selling flashy add-ons, and that relays everything which is said to other corporations and to the government.
The protocol is super-light. High-school students used to revel in making their very own IRC bots. It's also easy to add IRC support to game worlds and to keep an eye on the worlds that way.
One IRC issue is that a bouncer is helpful. Enter "bip". I run a tweaked "bip" setup and it works fine. For people who want a web gateway, I run TheLounge.
The remaining part is the question of the IRC client. For Linux and Windows, there's #HexChat, irssi, and weechat. Or just a web browser if an IRC network includes TheLounge. For Android, there's Revolution IRC. I don't have an iOS device, so I can't comment on that.
In short, IRC is great. If you'd like to talk to me in real-time, my network is presently:
Network name: CoderNet
IRC host: irc.oldcoder.org
IRC classic port: 6667
IRC secure port: 6697
Web gateway: irc.minetest.org
It isn't essential to join a channel, but if you make it into the network, try:
/join #ventures
To ping me, try:
/msg OldCoder Hello
I'm online 24 hours, some days, subtracting intermittent sleep, errands, or trips to different cities. The errands typically take two hours and the trips typically take a full day.
Illustration: GenAI. A deity offers IRC, the simple and sensible #FOSS chat system, to the viewer.
Andrew Lee (entrepreneur)
Andrew Lee (entrepreneur) #freenode #irc #korea #emperor #king #pia #vpn #internet
just randomly remembering the end of #Freenode and smirking
I grew up when IRC was the main protocol to use for chatting about computer stuff in real-time. That was back on #freenode, when lilo used to run things (may he RIP).
Heck, when I worked at a previous company, we had an internal IRC server which we used to communicate internally with one-another.
So you end up understanding the "rules" -- especially around things like using pastebins, as well as knowing what can/cannot be shared easily.
That was ~20 years ago though.
Although IRC is still being used, even for some high-profile projects, I see more people join, and pasting in code snippets, treating them as markkdown code-blocks.
This, of course, won't wash with proper IRC clients such as #weechat -- which I've been a user of since forever.
Am I just getting old, or are people not aware of how to use IRC. I'm sure the young whipersnaper types will likely be ignorant, in which case if that's all it is... meh!
But it never used to be like this... 🙂
All this #Fosstodon drama remember me #freenode I know the reasons to move to other instance are differents, but I can't stop to thing that #fosstodon is freenode and probably #flosssocial is #liberachat
Musk's takeover of Twitter and later of the whole friggin' US government bears many similarities with the hostile takeover of FreeNode by Andrew Lee.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/q6k9md/ircfreenode_this_is_not_a_hostile_takeover_says/
I never thought the hostile takeover of #freenode would have an equivalent in geopilitics.
The Evolution of Internet Relay Chat (IRC)
Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is one of the oldest forms of real-time communication on the internet. It was created in August 1988 by Jarkko Oikarinen, a Finnish programmer, as a replacement for a program called MUT (MultiUser Talk) on the University of Oulu's network.
Read More: https://machaddr.substack.com/p/the-evolution-of-internet-relay-chat
#IRC #Chat #OpenSource #Internet #Network #Freenode #Libera #Linux #Computer #Science #Rooms
@brentdev
.. and on the other hand, you will certainly remember the time well (was that before Corona?) when, due to great egoism and the resulting loss of trust, freenode-irc became a no-go and thus destroyed for all people volunteering in free and open software #liberachat was created out of nowhere, which in turn resulted in a mass switch of all these good spirits to liberachat. This was unprecedented evidence of who the f(l)oss-fsf communities belong to mentally. Do you know a better example of positive conspiratorial and, above all, such great collective unity and clarity? Not me. This happened in no time without much talking. The good spirit called and everyone came. Well a few went to #OFTC, but even #Kali-Linux has a connection bot to liberachat because many of their fans were too quick to join libera. I have never experienced a major brain drain or should I say mind drain. The purest migration of good folks.
I don't mean to say that with what's left of #freenode there are only heartless zombies running around. My friends from PuppyLinux are still there (and also on lberachat) and are holding the fort because many Windows users are interested in #puppylinux to get started and are checking out freenode first.
You can see that so far I've only been on irc channels. Facebook x etc were never an option for me because even in their early days I foresaw that this could not have a good development for their users and for our society.
You know, I believe that the spirit here for many people is the same good spirit and I have already seen a few profiles that reinforce my belief. I think I will feel comfortable here.
Thank you for your welcome :D
@sixtus bin immernoch erstaunt, wie schnell der Sprung vom #IRC Netzwerk #Freenode nach #LiberaChat 2021 ging: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libera_Chat#/media/File:IRC_top_10_networks_2021.png
(und ja, ich weiß, ich bin wohl auch ein bisschen alt, weil ich IRC erwähne :D )
https://wiki.letspiss.net/wiki/Main_Page
Pissnet my beloved #irc #freenode
Libera Chat es una red de IRC, fundada el 19 de mayo de 2021, por los antiguos miembros de #Freenode debido a diferencias con la gestión que Andrew Lee estaba haciendo desde abril de 2021. La red fue fundada después de que la mayor parte de los voluntarios que gestionaban Freenode dimitiesen (Wikipedia).
Muchos proyectos de #softwarelibre tienen sus salas de conversación en este sitio, incluída la misma Free Software Fundación #FSF.
Puedes utilizar #LiberaChat desde su sitio web https://libera.chat y también desde el Cliente IRC de tu preferencia.
Nos leemos en el #Fediverso!
https://libretics.org/2024/03/01/de-vuelta-al-irc-con-libera-chat/
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