#VCMoneyBurningParty

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-03-28

@signalapp no it's not.

Being a #centralized, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider solution subject to #CloudAct makes you inherently vulnerable by your own choice and thus trivial to shutdown compared to real #E2EE with #SelfCustody of all the keys and true #decentralization as well as #SelfHosting (i.e. #PGP/MIME [see @delta / #deltaChat et. al.] and #XMPP+#OMEMO [see @monocles / #monoclesChat et. al.]!)

And don't even get me started on you collecting #PII (espechally #PhoneNumbers) for no valid reason, (thus violating #GDPR & #BDSG)...

But yeah, I'll be patient to shout "#ToldYaSo" to your annoying cult of fanboys!

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-03-27
Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-03-25

@crazy_pony when @signalapp isn't being run as a #VCMoneyBurningParty and they take #InfoSec, #OpSec, #ComSec & #ITsec serious and stop shilling the #Shitcoin #Scams that is #MobileCoin!

For everyone else, there's #XMPP+#OMEMO (see @monocles / #monoclesChat) & #PGO/MIME (see @delta / #deltaChat)…

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-03-25

@froge @fj I'm not replacing @signalapp with "random tools" but good options.

Like @delta & @thunderbird as well as @monocles / #monoclesChat & @gajim which work flawlessly over @torproject / #Tor using @tails / @tails_live / #Tails and @guardianproject / #Orbot respectably.

Considering the costs of even acquiring and upkeeping an #anonymous #SIM, I'd rather pay €2 p.m. for #XMPP+#OMEMO and #PGP/MIME-supported #eMail with the option of self-custody than $2,50+ p.m. just to keep a phone number.

Or is anyone here expecting @Mer__edith to risk jail for life amd not comply with #CloudAct?

It stenches like #ANØM, because NOTHING IS FOR FREE and running a #VCmoneyBurningParty is expensive...

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-03-25

@licho @osman provide evidence the code @signalapp released is actually being deployed.

Not to mention pushing a #Shitcoin-#Scam (#MobileCoin) disqualifies #Signal per very design!
youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M

  • Given the collection of #PII like #PhoneNumbers, the ability to restrict functionality based off those and the fact that #Signal is subject to #CloudAct make it inherently not trustworthy.

And don't even get me started on the fact.it's not sustainable to run it as a #VCmoneyBurningParty!

Same as identifying users: They already got a #PhoneNumber which in many juristictions one can't even obtain without #ID legally, thus making it super easy to i.e. find and locate a user. Even tze cheapest LEAs can force their local M(V)NOs to #SS7 a specific number...

  • All these are unnecessary risks, that could've been avoided, but explicitly don't even get remediated retroactively!

Again: Signal has a #Honeypot stench, and you better learn proper #E2EE, #SelfCustody and #TechLiteracy because corporations can't pull the 5th [Amendment] on your behalf!

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-03-19

@ckrypto if@signalapp@mastodon.world wasn't complying with #CloudAct, @Mer__edith would be in jail.

Not to mention even if Signal keeps their "#OpenSource" code updated - which is doubtful, NOONE can actually #verify that it's the code you actually use - regardless if #backend / #Server or #client / #App!

  • #Signal is as secure as #ANØM, otherwise it would've been shutdown ages ago.

Also if Signal was designed for #security, it would've been #decentralized as #XMPP+#OMEMO and not demand #PII like #PhoneNumbers which oftentimes cannot be obtained anonymously in many juristictions at all!

By comparison, @delta doesn't require any PII, only an #eMail account, and @monocles isn't a #VCmoneyBurningParty but sustainable due to #subscription and they don't even require any personal details for #payment: #CashByMail and #Monero are accepted.

Again: It's Signal alone who have to evidence they are trustworthy, and all I get are "#TrustMeBro!" replies, which means they are not to be trusted.

  • Not to mention, it's just not sustainable to run a #service without #revenue, even if it's run entirely by unpaid volunteers and gets all it's #hosting and #costs donated, someone has to pay for expenses due to #abuse of a service (which is an inevitability come mass adoption)...

Whereas with #XMPP I can completely setup my own server and client, even build my own if I don't trust anyone else and pay someone to audit the code.

Whereas with XMPP & PGP/MIME #eMail I can layer @torproject / #Tor over it, make it an #OnionService and keep that thing under my bed with a literal killswitch...

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-02-21

@erebion @inaruck #Scherheit bedeutet ja nicht nur #ITsec, sondern #InfoSec, #OpSec & #ComSec.

Gibt Gründe warum #XMPP+#OMEMO, #IRC & #eMail bis heute existieren ubd warum keiner mehr #AIM, #ICQ, #MSN, #BBM & Co. nutzt!

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-02-13

@Beggarmidas @Em0nM4stodon

For comparison monocles / @monocles doesn't collect any #PII whatsoever and one can get their #Apps not only for free (or choose one's own #clients because unlike #Signal they only use open & standardized protocols!) but also pay using #CashByMail and #Monero for maximum #privacy.

So it's not a #VCmoneyBurningParty but actually #sustainable!

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-01-23

@lucasmz no, it's a #Shitcoin #scam and @signalapp knew it from day 1, thus they are complicit in it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MobileCo
coingecko.com/en/coins/mobilec

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