@ytc1 @DenOfEarth @aka_pugs I know.

And espechally in #ScientificComputing a lot of researchers loved working with #SunMicrosystems and when #Oracle took over that relationship got sour'd instantly due to #Oracle #CEO #LarryEllison...

-> https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114682503920794745

One of the big successes of #Sun was that they basically declared a unilateral "ceasefire" in terms of #IP & #Patents re: #OpenSource. Whereas Oracle didn't seem willing to honour that.

• Without that cooperative atmosphere we saw #OpenOffice devs literally forking off into @libreoffice and projects like #illumos and @openzfs scramble to save what was OpenSource'd and also rescue that.

Obviously #Linux with it's #GPLv2only-Kernel and most of it's Userland could not get 'closed-sourced' like #OpenSolaris which instantly got stomped out by Oracle as they wanted to sqeeze #Solaris for profits and milk their clients in typical Oracle fashion...

• Which is sad because #competition breeds #innovation and a lot of stuff like #Zones in Solaris really were at their time really forcing #KVM, #bhyve and #BSDjails to up their game for good.

Now granted, I do know someone who for most of their life made their money dealing with the intricacies of setting up #postfix, #sendmail and #courier #MailServers on Solaris and if I ask said person about that they give me a kilometer stare, so OFC like a #SysV - #Unix systems Solaris and #SunOS really are one of the reasons #WindowsNT won the "#WorkstationWar" and why - if anyone - #Apple won the last "#UnixWar"...

• Still I do am sad that I declined that #sysadmin position at a leading research center I'm not at liberty to name and I do know there's OFC still some critical infrastructure running even older Solaris servers...

https://mastodon.sdf.org/@ytc1/114689337148586939

@landley @burnoutqueen Yeah...

#GPLv3 is a desaster as it's 99% ideology and 1% license text and alongside #AGPLv3 completely ignores the reality of how #licensing and #patents and #IP works.

• Not that I like the status-quo, but we'd rather see businesses steer clear of anything GPLv2+ or GPLv3 or worse.

And on the flipside we basically get "source available" stuff like #SSPL which only serves as a means to commit #AssetDenial and monopolize commercial offerings...

• I think #Linux being #GPLv2only is a good compromise and my personal gripes with #FSF & #GNUtils as well as #GlibC are something different...

@Nicholasr_ITSulu @nixCraft nodds in agreement and since there are so many stakeholders with opposing interests and a #copyleft license, #GAFAMs can't #enshittify or #tivolize it!

• And due to #GPLv2only eben a move to #AssholeLicensing like #AGPLv3 or #SSPL is not possible!

@Elucidating well, #AGPLv3 and #GPLv3 demand things that are often not legally possible, like providing free and perpetual licenses to #patents and #tech adjacent to it.

That - among many other considerations, is why #Linux is #GPLv2only!

If you want to commit #AssetDenial, then #GPLv3 & #AGLv3 is for you but I've run that experiment too and it doesn't get any more contributions out of people than #0BSD.

Now you may think my shitty little projects like @OS1337 & #NUCbook don't count and that is valid, but @landley did maintain #BusyBox and he did the test as well and all the #litigation and #enforcement resulted in 0 lines of #code being contributed back to BusyBox...

And the folks behind #Samba now regret going GPLv3...
https://mstdn.jp/@landley/112135455741147578

@geraldew @RTP I think #Linux being #GPLv2 is good.

Would a lot of people prefer it to be #BSD?
Yes, myself included.

Are some neckbeards angry it's #GPLv2only and not #GPLv3 or #AGPLv3?
Yes, but I don't think they matter beyond needing to quarantine them for their toxicity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2SKenHRhMg

Fact is: @linux is a good project and solid product as well, and @torvalds managed to get both businesses and individuals behind it, resulting in a very versatile common denominator of kernel.

That's why I chose if for #OS1337...