War heute das erste Mal im #StudioGusto in der Methfesselstraße. Sieht so aus als hätte Eimsbüttel jetzt endlich einen Kaffee-Laden mit einer richtig guten Auswahl an interessanten Kaffees. Zwei mal DAK, einmal Cycle Roasters auf Empfehlung des Hauses sowie einen Flat White mit dem DAK "Banana Shake", der einfach auch komplett on point war.

Zusammen mit dem #Geen und dem #ThirdRoom dann jetzt zumindest drei Addressen für adäquaten third wave Kaffee.

Salut @jose_relland
Il y a #thirdroom basé sur #matrix, mais le projet a été mis en pose il y a un moment il me semble …
https://thirdroom.io/

Ça serait pour quel usage ?

@masto @MastOHelp @Gargron

Found out this week that Spark AR Studio / Meta Spark is also being discontinued, along with third-party #Instagram augmented reality (AR) filters...

So far, the social #WebXR space has lost (as far as I know):
- #MozillaHubs
- #ThirdRoom
- #SparkAR / #MetaSpark

#AR #XR #VR

Quick reminder that @element built a metaverse that works better than anything Facebook has shown, for a fraction of the investment, and built entirely on free and open source technology including @matrix : https://thirdroom.io/

#Matrix #ThirdRoom

If you are gamer, roleplayer and playing in metaverses, then you should come on this community website.

The website is made in Facebook style with many functions. Here we talk about all concerning gaming, virtual worlds and news about all concerning gaming and virtual worlds, like #Opensim , #SecondLife , #VRchat , #thirdroom , #unrealengine , #games , #ai etc

https://hypemetaverse.com/home

here is the source code of newest #unrealengine 5.3. Just out. You can change to your own requirements and adjust it for metaverse platforms like #helios or #thirdroom #metaverse #virtualreality

https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.3/en-US/downloading-unreal-engine-source-code/

Day 3: we are now already 11 people from different virtual worlds. This metaverse Website is similar working like facebook and for all people in virtual reality games like secondlife, opensim, thirdroom, Helios, VRchat etc. Doesn't matter, which VR you use. Most here use different VR too at the same time and can compare advantages and disadvantages of each. This website is built by @zonenations on opensimsocial instance but is not connected to #fediverse
#metaverse #virtualreality #AI #VR #KI #opensim #secondlife #VRchat #thirdroom #Helios #unrealengine

https://hypemetaverse.com/home

• "The Metaverse". Actually named Horizons. Get that into your heads, dammit. And yes, I'm talking about Meta's worlds.
  
• Cryptobros' attempted get-rich-quick schemes that imply that "the Metaverse" inevitably requires a blockchain, a cryptocurrency (usually either Dogecoin or Etherium or something running on Etherium's blockchain) and expensive NFTs for everything including land. Not seldomly buggy as hell because in-world experience doesn't earn the world owners any money.
  
• More or less failed attempts by other huge gigacorporations to launch their own monolithic walled garden metaverses for as many use-cases as imaginable. Failed because they came too late.
  
• The industrial metaverse which is still only a vague idea and probably another buzzword like "the cloud" and "the blockchain".
  
• Second Life which has slapped the term "metaverse" onto itself in 2022, trying to stay relevant in spite of stagnating user numbers and showing the world it's still around. This actually had even less of an effect than the comparisons between Horizons' simplistic avatars and Second Life's near-photo-realistic avatars and its 20th birthday PR campaign last year.
  
• Roblox, VRchat, Minecraft etc. They don't even need to refer to themselves as "metaverses" because they're so popular with kids that not much more publicity is necessary.
  
• OpenSimulator which is as decentralised as Decentraland implies to be but isn't. It has been using the term "metaverse" regularly since 2007, the year it was launched. But as it doesn't make a fuss about it, nobody outside its own community knows.
  
• ThirdRoom which was one of the first FLOSS virtual worlds to work in a standard Web browser rather than requiring a specialised client. Its future is unclear because all three devs are on an indefinite hiatus.
  
• Vircadia, a HighFidelity fork, and Overte, a Vircadia fork, both trying to build the decentralised next-generation open-source metaverses with some interesting ideas, but neither having a significant community, and both being every bit as obscure and unknown as OpenSim.
  
• The proposed decentralised, standardised, open metaverse for everyone. Which might not even come because the virtual worlds hype of 2020 is over for obvious reasons, and whoever else would be interested in it is probably busy in other virtual worlds already.

Im #ThirdRoom gibt es gerade einen leckeren Kaffee aus Yemen, vom Barista selbst geröstet. Bitte nicht alle sofort hin rennen, würde gern noch eine der Tüten erstehen. 😄

#lokaleEmpfehlungen

Matrix/Thirdroom is an invention of 3 developers, who worked out an open source, decentralized Metaverse and many people hope that this work can be continued. You can work on it too and all codes are open to take it and continue to work. Look in Element and go in the room third room. Actually there are discussions about the future of new metaverse and thirdroom.

For #opensim developers it could be great also because it is possible to bring whole content in #thirdroom with unity. You can bring complete OARs in your thirdroom room/sim

The Matrix.org Foundation is a non-profit and only relies on donations to operate. Its core mission is to maintain the Matrix Specification, but it does much more than that.

It maintains the matrix.org homeserver and hosts several bridges for free. It fights for our collective rights to digital privacy and dignity.

https://matrix.org/blog/2023/06/07/introducing-third-room-tp-2-the-creator-update/

Thirdroom has 3 developers but they take a break and work for other projects because there is not enough funding to continue work. It would just need 500 K dollars to continue developing for another year. They would do but if there is no money it won't be continued.

#thirdroom #matrix #metaverse #virtualreality

Virtual reality and metaverses today have different options right now. You can have high tech graphics and best voice chat systems already. It is even possible to have all this as open source, decentralized for your home computer at home to connect with other worlds. There are in my opinion 3 very well made options to get a 64 bit high tech graphics world with real life physics and and great secure voice chat possibilities.

First I want to suggest is thirdroom, which is open source, decentralized based on Matrix. The three developers take a break but you get whole coding to develop further. You can import from Unity all mesh model stuff in 64 bit quality and the voice chat has even military security standards that works perfect as you can see in element. It is the closest to what we know in opensim. Each room is like a sim. Just high tech 64 bit with 60 fps for every computer. No need for expensive graphic cards anymore.

https://thirdroom.io/landing

Second I want to suggest is Helios. It is made with newest unreal engine 5.2 and complete already. It is out of proved state and just needs content (like thirdroom too) . It could be easy to begin with best mesh stuff we have in secondlife and opensim for deco and develop further 64 bit stuff in Unity (or blender). The scripting is easy with graphic interface modules and matches to physics. Just not usable (limited) for Avatars so far. There needs to be new ideas how to solve it for real looking avatars that can be made with AI software like you get from apple for copying your own face and avi and bring in your own movements and facial expressions like in visionPro. The developers here just wait for cooperations like in thirdroom.

https://www.helios-vr.com/

The third I want to suggest is starengine. It is a 64 bit seamless own star system where you can travel seamless from planet to planet (sims if you want). It is the future of gaming and can take 150 Multiplayer per server but beats everything you have ever seen in physics, graphics and possibilities. Here it is commercial gaming solution which just needs to be adapted for a VR metaverse but physics can't be beaten if you look at this video. Scripting with voxelgrid in C++ is not so different to opensim and secondlife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWm_OhIKms8

#vr #ai #metaverse #virtualreality #opensim #secondlife #unreal #starengine #thirdroom #matrix

A new #metaverse should have at least this graphics quality and physics like in this film. It shouldn't be also a problem to have monster Sims like 64x64 with 60 fps for normal computer and never again just 16 bit objects as Lego mesh.

#vr #virtualreality #sl #SecondLife #opensim #thirdroom #visionpro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-En6IIL7jg

I'm still quite shocked and pissed off by this bad news : the layoff of the #ThirdRoom team and indefinite pause on the project, due to lack of funds ... : apparently the main funds providers are diverting their attention from one hype to another (metaverse to AI) while there are actual productive usecases for the tech developed already (but needs some brushing)
and @EU_Commission @EC_DIGIT @EC_NGI funds are totally not adequate to support this :/ what a waste 🥶 #vr #ar #metaverse #floss #libre

@vrsimility

educational purposes? You are kidding, right?

The only school I know is on AMV where you get lessons for Blender or scripting or such in this way. So you learn there how to create own stuff. But it is all basic knowledge and no one in opensim is developer anymore for the software itself. There is still Dan who is owner of Lbsa in OSgrid but for further development there is no one anymore. Everyone who runs grids uses Dreamgrid and Fred is the developer but this all doesn't really matter anymore. The server side is not really a problem. Everyone can have great working grids on his computer at home. Many have more than one grid running. I know some who run 3 grids at the same time. Of course, they use different alts as owner lol

Jimmy has also Decadence grid on one server and var sims of OSgrid on another server at home. So he runs several different. Of course, the server for decadence Grid is most powerful. It works great.

But there are no developers for Firestorm or other viewer, who really make a game changer. It is all still depending on openGL and you get no more complexity inworld than 16 bit objects.

Some even said that LindenLabs forced Firestorm not to make performance better for it. The Software is anyway 95 % of the SL viewer and just added some cosmetics. If you compare actually SL viewer with Firestorm viewer you see in SL the difference. The SL viewer is better. Although with the last update of Firestorm it has better performance too. I would estimate 30 % better than before. But still less than the SL viewer.

How many Grids are online will change anyway. You can run a grid just for the time you are online by yourself only. So it is hard to estimate how many grids are really there. A friend is just bringing her grid online when she is online with her friend together.

How many real persons are in Opensim? @jupiter_rowland would say now thousands and would show you computer statistics from a journalist.

Some say just 100. I estimate about 200 with each 100 alts lol

I have 7 alts by myself. From different grids but same name and all avis look the same. But I just use 2 or 3 at the same time. When I'm looking on Lbsa I have still my other avi at home. Most do this. And perhaps have other avis in addition at their home for traffic because they have a beacon and to be shown in traffic charts with 2 or 3 people lol

We have no beacon and it doesn't matter because we find it is ridiculous to show off in top 10 charts of traffic just with 3 people. In SL it is nothing.

You have in HBC in Secondlife 24/7 more real people than in whole opensim I would estimate. In HBC (Heavy Bondage Club) there are 24/7 250 people and you have to take a ticket to stay there for an hour. lol

In Opensim you have a good chance to explore all the thousands of sims and won't meet anyone there. And if you meet one then he is AFK lol

About Kitely Market I can't say anything because I was just first there and saw what quality is sold there. First I had no clue how to build things and all was magic for me. Now I know that things there are not really skilled new buildings. If you just change texture and put an AV Sitter 2.2 in a carpet then you should not really call it your own creation and demand real money for it. It is ridiculous what some people think they would be creative builders. If they are really that good then they should go in Secondlife and sell there things. But I bet no one would pay anything for it or want to have it.

The only thing that really matters for new creations is to script things. But in opensim are not really professionals. Last time I was on a sim that advertised on OSW that it has new things. The scripts were from 2014 and 2011. Very new.

When I came to Opensim I was asking for RLV things. Because of Hypergridding many things don't work. Just on own grid but not when you HG. So most people just build their Lego sims and are happy with it to take nice pics of their landscape and that's all. We don't have even great drifting cars or such because our physics doesn't work for it.

So opensim is just a bad copy of second life and won't be developed out of its own further.

I hoped for #thirdroom but the 3 developers take a break now. So there is no alternative right now.

@matrix Wow, very disheartened by the terse #Thirdroom announcement. I fully understand the decision but it is sad nonetheless.

OMG All three developers of #thirdroom take a break or even won't work further on it.
so sad 😞

Exploring new sims in #thirdroom . Everyone can have his own room on his computer like everyone can have his own grid on his computer at home in #opensim

In #thirdroom it is an advantage that you can upload high complexity 3D models in your room. In opensim and secondlife just 8 MB and of 16 bit complexity.

In Thirdroom the world looks much more realistic with 3D Models and you can upload high complexity models from Blender there.

To enter uk City e.g. which is own room of someone I just needed to download 52 MB first then the whole world was built when I entered.

This is a pic made on Firefox but Firefox has a bug. Best results you have with Safari and everywhere framerate of 60 fps. Seems many Germans explore it. In chat they talk German as you can see.