@nixCraft Currently run #GNUstep Debian 12. Works great, low resource utilization, like the look. #gnustep #linux #Debian
#gnustep
Had an old 2018 Mac Mini collecting dust so decided to throw #Linux on it so I could play around with #GNUstep. Man this brings back the memories.
There is a similar tool by the GNUstep project:
https://github.com/gnustep/libs-xcode/
Joining forces might be worth considering.
This midnight I was thinking to install #GNUstep on #freebsd and it was really disappointing.
The BSD `pkg` lists have one pkg for Foundation, one for back end, one for front end, and a few others. I’m not sure what i need and the instructions on the site don’t make it clear what I have to have and in what order I have to have it — it was a “too soon” moment from @david_chisnall ‘s post from earlier today [1].
Going to the instructions, I found their magic `curl` pipe to `bash` (don’t have bash on BSD, but le sigh) and I looked at it: it was going to download several repos, tested that I had bash, tested that I had `sudo` (wait, what? Why?).
Ctrl+D. I love Objective-C so much and miss Aqua so hard, but god-dam this is unfriendly[2].
If any #bsd people have this working, let me know.
DEVS: MAKE IT EASY for me to get started. Half the reason React has been so successful (and Rails before it) is because getting started was EASY.
[1]: https://infosec.exchange/@david_chisnall/114406142123234529
[2]: https://stevengharms.com/posts/2025-01-04-return-of-aqua/
It makes me sad that #KDE back in the day went with Windows-style app shortcuts (.kdelnk and .desktop files) instead of NeXTSTEP/macOS-style app bundles.
The latter are inherently portable, self-describing, potentially self-contained, and trivial to install or remove. In short: better in pretty much every way.
And because KDE set the precedent, all other #Linux #desktop environments (except #GNUstep) have followed suit. 😔
Sometimes being an open-source maintainer is nice. I haven't done paid consulting for the GNUstep Objective-C Runtime for ages (I wasn't doing enough for it to be worth the tax effort and I'm not always able to commit to doing things in a sufficiently timely fashion to set up the expectations that being paid creates), so I added a note a while ago telling people to donate to Murray Edwards if they find the project useful.
Last week, I got the following email from the nice folks at Algoriddim saying (abridged):
I just wanted to drop you a note to let you know that we appreciate your continued work on the GNUstep runtime, and that we’ve made another donation to Murray Edwards to support women in computer science.
Always nice to see things being paid forwards.
Dare I dream of a #GNUstep renaissance or the explosion of #interlisp at hand?
From: @dave
https://social.lightbeamapps.com/@dave@social.lightbeamapps.com/114224995875037861
Ok, looks like #GDL2 really has got an relevant part of EOInterface: https://github.com/gnustep/libs-gdl2/tree/master/EOInterface
#gnustep
The Debian packages for the GNUstep based Emacs variant have been updated to the currently released Emacs 30.1 version.
Downloads for i386, amd64, and arm64 are available from https://wmlive.rumbero.org/repo/pool/main/e/emacs-gnustep and should also work on standard Debian Bookworm.
On systems based on wmlive, emacs-gnustep can be upgraded/installed using the usual apt procedures.
The Debian packages for the GNUstep based Emacs variant have been updated to the currently released Emacs 30.1 version.
Downloads for i386, amd64, and arm64 are available from wmlive.rumbero.org/repo/pool/ma... and should also work on standard Debian Bookworm.
#wmlive #gnustep #emacs #debian
Index of /repo/pool/main/e/ema...
The gtk2 based Pale Moon Debian packages for amd64, arm64, and i686 available at wmlive.rumbero.org/repo/pool/ma... have been updated to latest release 33.6.0.1.
Users already having wmlive installed can upgrade to these newer packages applying the usual apt procedures.
#wmlive #debian #gnustep
Index of /repo/pool/main/p/pal...
The gtk2 based Pale Moon Debian packages for amd64, arm64, and i686 available at https://wmlive.rumbero.org/repo/pool/main/p/palemoon/ have been updated to latest release 33.6.0.1.
Users already having wmlive installed can simply upgrade to these newer packages applying the usual apt procedures.
Have you ever considered porting this to GNUstep and thus multiply its possible user base?
This eerily sounds familiar...
https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/16/open_source_maintainers_state_of_open/
Tests with my #ono case and #RaspberryPi 4. I’m trying to install #GNUstep on top of #Raspbian.
For builders of the wmlive ISO, source update wmlive-bookworm-12.9.1.tar.xz was uploaded to sourceforge. * backport kernel version 6.12.9 for amd64 ISO * added throttled-0.11.tar.xz into build tree * bug fixes for wmlive-base and wmlive-installer #wmlive #gnustep #wmaker #windowmaker #debian
For those building the wmlive ISO images themselves, build sources wmlive-bookworm-12.9.1.tar.xz was uploaded to sourceforge. Notable changes:
* Switch to backport kernel version 6.12.9 for amd64 ISO.
* Add build-config/wmlive-opt/*/throttled-0.11.tar.xz into build tree.
Additionally, included helper packages wmlive-base and wmlive-installer have some bugs fixed.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/wmlive/files/wmlive-bookworm-12.8/wmlive-bookworm-12.9.1.tar.xz
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