#servo

2025-07-08

"#JamieZawinski has #repeatedly said:

Now hear me out, but What If…? #browser #development was in the hands of some kind of #nonprofit #organization?

In my #humble but #correct #opinion, #Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:

#Building THE #reference #implementation #WebBrowser and
Being a jugular-#snapping #attack #dog on #standards #committees.
There is no 3."
"Perhaps this is the only #viable #resolution."

"#Mozilla, for all its many #failings, has #invented a lot of #amazing #tech, from #Rust to #Servo to the #leading #budget #phone #OS. It shouldn't be trying to #capitalize on this #stuff. Maybe 3encourage it to have semi-independent #spinoffs, such as #Thunderbird, and as #KaiOS ought to be, and as #Rust could have been."
"But #JamieZawinski has the only #clear #vision and #solution we've seen yet. Perhaps he's #right, and #Mozilla #should be a #nonprofit, #working to #fund the one #independent, non-#vendor-driven, #standardscompliant #browserEngine."

2025-07-08

"#Mozilla can press on with independent subprojects such as #Thunderbird owners #MZLA #Technologies #Corporation. The popular #Electron #framework is based on #Chromium. It's too late to change that, even if maybe #Servo may one day offer an #alternative. But if #Thunderbird sucked in #Libpurple, it wouldn't matter if #Slack and #Teams and so on used #Electron, as Thunderbird could talk to the servers directly."
"But pointing at what we'd like to see is attempting to #treat the #symptoms and not the #disease. Is there a way to #encourage Mozilla to be an #organized, #focused, #professional #business, with #eyes keenly set on a clearly defined #goal? Perhaps that's the wrong #question. Perhaps that shouldn't be the goal at all. For all that the #Linux business is #huge, no #company #develops the #kernel. They all #cooperate on it. The #Linux #Foundation #funds it, but doesn't really #guide it."
"One #observer has been #spectating and #commentating on Mozilla since before it was a foundation – one of its original co-#developers, #JamieZawinksi. He has been accurately #cataloging Mozilla's #failings for #years."

#browser

Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷larsmb@mastodon.online
2025-07-08

We deserve a web browser that's part of and owned by the public commons.

To be frank, I believe we deserve, need, and could easily fund two: Firefox and Servo/Verso.

The "Open Web" does not exist without a truly open browser. Most digital sovereignty initiatives collapse without one.

Mozilla is not the organizational entity to lead this.

theregister.com/2025/07/08/fir

#Firefox #Servo #WebBrowsers #DigitalSovereignty

2025-07-07

@soller hey Jeremy, love what you are doing with the cosmic desktop.

Do you have some plans for a browser to be delivered with / ?

A suggestion if you get bored: you could make a simple UI wrapper using (or ) for . Would fit well with goals...

I would once again like to thank the #Mozilla folks for their fine work on making #Firefox do what they think the user should want, rather than what the user actually wants. This is a challenging technical task, but they have proven to be very adept at it over the years.

Current #gripe: tab groups. My tabs just started opening in tab groups without me doing anything. Took a while to figure out this was actually what was going on; the UI affordances for this are not obvious, and it just seemed to be two unrelated niggles - (1) links opened in new tabs weren't opening at the end of the tab bar, and (2) some weird little thing was showing up in the tab bar, which just looked like a graphical glitch.

I didn't enable tab groups, but I suddenly got them anyway.

I didn't choose for links opened in new tabs to be placed into tab groups, but I got that anyway.

And there's no setting in the UI to control this, at least in my Firefox. Search the settings UI for "group" and there's 0 results. Looking through the settings, I don't see it under another name.

You can turn it off in about:config - it's at `browser.tabs.groups.enabled`.

Firefox keeps getting worse and worse. This "we know better than the user, they should want this change and we won't let them even opt out, much less require them to opt in" is a huge driver of that.

When will #Servo be suitable as a daily driver?

#tab #BrowserTab #TabGroup #TabGroups #browser #arrogant #PissesMeOff #PissMeOff

New blog post: IPC multiplexing prototype goes public

underlap.org/ipc-multiplexing-

#Servo #RustLang

David Fleetwood - RG Adminreflex@retrogaming.social
2025-06-23

@servo I'd still like an update on the decisions about using AI in code submissions. Can someone respond to that please?

#AI #servo

Fossery Tech :debian: :gnome:fosserytech@social.linux.pizza
2025-06-22

(Linux news in original post)

FOSS NEWS

Mozilla discontinues Fakespot Deep Fake Detector:
omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/06/mozill

Organic Maps gets option to save planned routes and other improvements:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

CoMaps 2025.06.10 is now available on F-Droid with new UI and updated maps:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

Proton Mail and Calendar gets option for adding notes when replying to event invitations:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

ONLYOFFICE 9.0 released with new themes, redesigned start screen, new Diagram Viewer tool, new supported formats (Markdown, OpenDocument Graphics, Excel binary workbook files) etc.:
omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/06/onlyof

Immich 1.135 released with iOS home screen widgets, Google Cast support and album descriptions in mobile apps, opt-in Google Cast integration and new onboarding flow on web, etc.:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

ReactOS gets better support for fullscreen programs:
phoronix.com/news/ReactOS-Full

Calibre 8.5 released with improved Kobo driver, new button in the Manage Data Files dialog to cancel remaining e-books when managing multiple ones, etc.:
9to5linux.com/calibre-8-5-open

Zed gets new multi-language debugger tool, supporting Rust, Go, Python, JavaScript and C/C++:
news.itsfoss.com/zed-debugger-

Git 2.50 released with multi-pack reachability, improved multiple cruft packs, ORT merge engine, etc.:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

Servo gets animated GIF support, support for SVG images via HTML "img" tag, input type="color" support, better layout and CSS support, etc.:
phoronix.com/news/Servo-May-20

Zen Browser 1.13b released with spaces for tabs instead of workspaces, updated Firefox base, Google Safe Browsing support:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

#WeeklyNews #OpenSource #FOSSNews #OpenSourceNews #FOSS #Mozilla #Fakespot #OrganicMaps #CoMaps #Proton #ProtonMail #ProtonCalendar #ONLYOFFICE #Immich #ReactOS #Calibre #Zed #Git #Servo #ZenBrowser #WebBrowser #Browser #Development #Dev #Programming #Coding #OfficeSuite #Maps #OperatingSystem #OS #EbookReader #CodeEditor #WebEngine #BrowserEngine #VersionControl #Ebook #FosseryTech

@gemlog @mpjgregoire To add in a fresh review by my entirely subjective personal marking scheme, I can say that #Servo fails pretty horribly:

  1. 〰️ Theme is ugly as sin, DPI scaling ignored, but it does actually use my window borders, so petulantly I'm giving it the same marks as Firefox here ;)
  2. ❌ Couldn't test downloading/uploading dialogue window
  3. ❌ Couldn't test results of downloading
  4. ❌ The best I could get was some sites it would give the website title in the titlebar. Every website however showed an unchanging white blank page. Zero websites were usable!
  5. ✔️ Best browser tried yet actually, it goes to valid .lan, .local, and .blah.internal addresses when I type them in sans protocol identifier and press enter
  6. ❌ I mean I just assume they don't work but obviously couldn't try
  7. ❌ The cert for the internal CA at work is in my trusted certs on this system, but Servo doesn't care, throws a certificate error (which I know because the one thing that works, the KDE-supplied window borders, shows a changing title that says "Certificate error" lol)

I'm going to give it a few extra marks for getting test 5 so right, so I'll say it gets 1.9 stars out of 5 ;)

Wait, I just tried to close it, and it is not responding to me clicking the X in the titlebar, I had to resort to killall servo, knocking it down to 1.7.

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2025-06-09

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2025-06-09

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Jux 🏳️‍⚧️& - eyes forever on the sunsetJuxGD@catodon.social
2025-06-06

is there a list of things Servo supports compared to other browser engines? ​:repost_ok:​

#servo #rust #webdev #browsers

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2025-05-28

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2025-05-22

1/3
On my way home from the @nluug #vj2025. Met a lot of cool people, and had some great #discussions. Loved the #Ladybird presentation, but I was already quite interested in both Ladybird and #Servo. Also some nice discussions about my topic of not using #BigTech.

Fossery Tech :debian: :gnome:fosserytech@social.linux.pizza
2025-05-18

(Linux news in previous posts)

FOSS NEWS

Servo browser engine can now render more complex websites like Gmail and Google Chat, supports single-valued "select" elements, shadow DOM is enabled by default, "servoshell" example browser now supports iframes etc.:
phoronix.com/news/Servo-Gmail-

Firefox gets experimental custom new tab image feature (can be enabled in Mozilla Labs):
omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/05/firefo

Shotcut 25.05 released with Alpha Strobe video filter, Freeze Frame tool, option to adjust track header width, “Add Generator” button in the timeline toolbar, 1080p preview scaling, DeckLink Gamma modes for SDR and HLG HDR etc.:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/5/

Inkscape 1.4.2 released with new splash screen, initial support for importing Vectornator / Linearity Curve files, improved importing of Affinity Designer (.afdesign) files, improved DXF12 export, improved PDF importing, other improvements and bug fixes:
9to5linux.com/inkscape-1-4-2-a

FFmpeg developers aren't satisfied with the new Rust-based rav1d decoder, say that "Rust is so good you can get paid $20k to make it as fast as C":
news.itsfoss.com/ffmpeg-swipe-
(This beef sounds like the ones Linus Torvalds says. Maybe he's also an FFmpeg dev? lol)

Canonical, Zerodha, Posit, Sanity, Tideways and other companies join the Open Source Pledge to fund FOSS projects:
news.itsfoss.com/major-boost-o
(Canonical and a random Indian financial company funding FOSS projects? Is it just me who has some bad feelings about this? 🤔️)
(Why would a bunch of for profit corporations support FOSS projects, if not because they want something out of them?)

#WeeklyNews #News #FOSS #OpenSource #FOSSNews #OpenSourceNews #Servo #Inkscape #Firefox #FFmpeg #Shotcut #ContentCreation #Browser #WebBrowser #FosseryTech

2025-05-17

Alrighty, It's not published on pypi yet, but I'm mostly done with pyservo42c. It's a python UART interface to the MKS Servo42C closed-loop stepper. No external dependencies, good test coverage.

These are great little widgets that provide easy step/dir/en and UART control of a stepper motor.

github.com/tjhowse/pyservo42c

All that remains is writing a little wrapper to interface directly to a com port, and then pypi publication.

#python #servo #mks #mechatronics #engineering #diy #maker

A photo of a NEMA17 stepper motor clamped to a benchtop. There is a flag of blue tape attached to the stepper shaft. Behind the stepper is a tangle of multicoloured wires.
H4kii the Posnaniesehakki@floss.social
2025-05-14

#Servo forbids the AI driven contributions, and its actually the first project I know to do so. Do you know more project with such rule in Contribution guideline?

book.servo.org/contributing.ht

#FLOSS #OSS

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