I'm researching for a rewrite of our OData tutorials in our SAP Developer Centre and came across this example of an Atom feed (you know the connection, right?). I cannot unsee the absolute randomness of indentation here, so I thought it only right that I share it here. #XML #Indentation #Atom #OData

What's a command-line tool to hard-wrap a file but preserve #indentation ?

(No, I'd never hard-wrap anything willingly, but sometimes you have to bow to evil in order to achieve greater good.)

#wrapping #linux #opensource #terminal

I have #legacyCode with #indentation switching arbitrarily between 1 and 2 spaces
I shit you not

I do not love my job every single day.

This is what I imagine people's code looks like when they complain about the forced indentation in #python.

And yes, this code is correct.

#programming #c #formatting #indentation #tabsvsspaces #whitespace #developers #developerexperience #debugging #fail #goodluck

Judging a programming #language based on whether it uses #braces or #indentation for block scoping is like judging a dinner course by the shape of the pot it was cooked in.

#python #dinner #dish #course #block #scope #syntax #programming

#Development #Pitfalls
Lessons from plain text · “Plain text might not always be as straightforward as it appears.” https://ilo.im/160erg

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#Programming #Tools #TextEditor #CodeEditor #Newline #Indentation #Wrapping #WebDev #Frontend #Backend

Periodic reminder that fuck YAML

Do not try to mandate what indentation we use. Last I checked this config file is OURS, not yours, YAML spec writers.

#YAML #indentation

@krutonium also #Tabs don't fuck with other peoples' #IDE and correlate with #indentation depth easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7PLxL8jIl8

• In fact, I always insisted on #TabsNotSpaces for formatting and also use #TSV over #CSV because one may want to use #comma in a field for like correct decimal designation.

@tth

There is an ongoing underground global war where you have chose a side: either TAB or SPACE

I was on the TABS side, for many years

I cannot tell you how i have been caught, I have no memories left, no trace of my former life where TABS was my default indentation key, whatever the language

I assure you the <Space> people are really friendly. They have not hurt me. I just no longer use the TAB key, that is the only difference

#python #indentation

Now, I have been told there is a growing schism between 2-space indentation and the 4-space indentation

Given the galactically-known wisdom of the bipedal cousins of the chimpanzees, we can be sure they will bury the axes of war

PEP8 advises to stand with space-4 as the prefered pythonic way of indenting

Coding indentation styles. I'm a K&R man, myself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentation_style

If you are a Horstmann person, please unfollow.

#developers #programming #coding #dev #indentation #format #coders

Spicy take: If your software development team is using Prettier, you should set it to indent with tabs, not spaces.

That makes it easy for everyone to set whatever indentation depth they want, and even adjust it if they feel the need. Someone who can pick out a 4-column indent better than 2 will have trouble reading that "indented with 2 spaces" stuff, but tabs let everyone coexist.

#SoftwareDevelopment #coding #programming #webdev #code #Prettier #indentation

Googled "#vim heuristic #indentation", wasn't disappointed. 🤯

Dynamic Tabbing For Automatic Indentation With The Layout Rule
(1998) : Lapalme, Guy
DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/s0956796898003098
#emacs #indentation #haskell #my_bibtex

@Catweazle

That's very #strange. To me the #links are complete after #loading and the #indentation works for me too. Can I have a #personal #question? Can you please tell me what #reader you are using? Ideally and operating #system or at least one of the above. I'd be happy to #fix it, but I can't bring up the #errors. I've tried two readers at the same #time and it's #always been ok..

Historic #ProgrammingStyle question: I remember that more than a decade ago everyone (i know of) exclusively used four spaces for #indentation. Now I see almost-exclusively two spaces for indentation. When did this switch start? What's the trend?

Can someone scrape dotfiles repos on github and their histories and plot that change in people's vim/emacs configs?

I suspect that it's correlated with the popularity of modern webdev brought by its Mariana-deep <div> nesting.

If you could only indent your code with either tabs or spaces from now on, which would you prefer to use?

Without considering the norms/preferences in specific languages, which one do you personally prefer to work with?

Reply with your reasoning if you'd like - please keep the discussion civil though 😅

#tabs #spaces #indentation #formatting #code

@mattwilcox Oof, this hits hard, because my interest in #accessibility completely agrees with you, but this is such an unpopular opinion that making such a transition will be a long and tricky process (not to say it's not worthwhile), and I'll have to work out how to configure various linters and code formatters to do the right thing.
Have you found code formatters can usually be configured to use tabs without too much trouble?
(In particular, I've not yet worked out if I can make autopep8 or similar go against its grain and *not* just do 4-space indents.)
#indentation #tabs #spaces #tabsOverSpaces

Do you prefer your #YAML lists indented or not?

```
a:
- foo
- bar
b:
- foo
- bar
```

(please boost to gather more replies to the poll!)

#syntax #indentation #prettify #code

I was once a strong believer in spaces over tabs for indentation. I'd map my tab key to 4 spaces. I had vim auto-convert tab characters to 4 spaces, etc.

Then it was brought to my attention how awful spaces are when it comes to accessibility for those with visual impairments: https://adamtuttle.codes/blog/2021/tabs-vs-spaces-its-an-accessibility-issue/

I now prefer tab indentation over spaces with the exception of languages that require spaces for indents.

#Disabilities #Programming #Indentation #Accessibility

@tojosan Adopt PEP8 formatting early and if you post online asking for questions make sure your formatting works. #indentation #4spaces