#WAYLAND

/dev/urandomrnd@toot.cat
2025-06-23

i feel like a large part of the disconnect between #opensource developers and general users is that, when someone designs and codes a program as a hobby rather than as work, they see it more like a piece of art

they want the code to be well-structured, where different parts interact exactly how they should without "hacks" or "kludges"

(while this is also desirable for any software project that wants to uphold its maintainability, when it comes to corporate proprietary software, other concerns tend to override it)

and so as a result when users complain about a lack of a feature that, from a user's perspective, should be easy to implement (after all, the competitors have it!), the developer gets really annoyed if they know that implementing it will make the overall code uglier or break whatever "promise" the system is supposed to have, and attempts to express that come across as lazy excuses

i think this also explains why the open-source world engages in complete redesigns a lot more (alsa -> #pulseaudio -> #pipewire, hal -> udev, #x11 -> #wayland, etc.) -- the developers don't want to break whatever they've already designed and, recognizing that the old thing fails at certain things in ways that would be "ugly" to fix, would rather make something completely new

Damian Fajferfajfer
2025-06-22

*me, clueless*

let's try this thing people are talking about

Norbert Preiningnorbu
2025-06-22

I can't agree more: "if you need reliability, stick with X11."
is still failing users after decades ...
linuxiac.com/kicad-advises-lin

Geeklandgeekland
2025-06-22
Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-06-22

@cesarpose @mrmasterkeyboard @fuchsiii that's why #XWayland exist: Allow people to continue using #Xorg applications until their maintainers did the necessary fixups so they work on #Wayland.

  • It's like #Wine+#DXVK / #Proton: A crutch that allows users to not be bothered or get angry at the wrong people and just have the cleanups being done in the background...

mastodon.social/@knoppix95/114

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-06-22

@mrmasterkeyboard @cesarpose case in point:

Just because "My Little Distro" (#OS1337) runs of a single /etc/init file doesn't mean this is the "correct" or "authoritative" way to do it nor that this is scalabe at all.

  • Just 'let me cook' on @OS1337 because it's more of a 'learning exercise' rather than "production grade"...

Back to #Xorg: I do think that metux's actions really salted the fields re: #Xlibre and any #X11 releases!

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-06-22

@mrmasterkeyboard @cesarpose I mean, #Xorg - like #SysVinit - both have severe issues that just ain't gonna be addressable under reasonable expectations re: hardware support, compatibility and software support.

  • But there's a reason "Big Distros" and the community in general came to the conclusion that #Wayland and #SystemD are at worst 'necessary evils' and for the most part deliver a lot of quality-of-life features.

youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo

There is no "#conspiracy" of #BigTech wanting to kill #X11 or even sabotage #Xlibre for that matter. It's just that some folks have trouble letting go and acknowledge that #Xserver is kept on "life support" as #Xwayland so people can run their 25+ year old #Windows games in #Wine without going apeshit.

  • I mean, ask @fuchsiii about that effort, where she's basically "workarounding" wine devs by literally pulling a "#Steam compatibility layer" kind of trick and swapping "good known working" Wine versions in just before launching a game because that works for setups where you have one user playing one game at a time on one machine and where shuffling around files/symlinks is possible.
Eduardo Medina 🇪🇸edlinks
2025-06-22

¿Estáis forzando vuestra gráfica para que funcione a una resolución superior a la esperada en videojuegos, es antigua o es una integrada de Radeon que anda justita para juegos exigentes? Aquí comparto mi pequeña fórmula para forzar a la hora de usar en junto a .

PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 WINE_FULLSCREEN_FSR=1 WINE_FULLSCREEN_FSR_MODE=quality WINE_FULLSCREEN_FSR_STRENGTH=2 %command%

Podéis cambiar el modo a ultra, balanced o performance.

Cómo forzar el uso de FSR y Wayland a través de Proton (CachyOS y GloriousEggroll) en Heroic Games Launcher.
Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-06-22

@mrmasterkeyboard sounds like some folks who don't want to admit #Xorg is dead and #Wayland is the way to move forward.

  • Kinda like folks stubbornly opposing #SystemD for no good reason.

#sarcasm #Linux #Xlibre

Linuxiaclinuxiac
2025-06-22

With over 70% of Plasma users now on Wayland, KDE is preparing for an eventual transition away from X11 support.
linuxiac.com/kde-confirms-ongo

With over 70% of Plasma users now on Wayland, KDE is preparing for an eventual transition away from X11 support.
Eduardo Medina 🇪🇸edlinks
2025-06-22

Si llamo a estas personas nostálgicas no es por nada, sino porque evidencian que viven en una época que está muy lejos del presente, más viendo que la aceleración por hardware es desde hace década y media una característica básica del escritorio .

Eduardo Medina 🇪🇸edlinks
2025-06-22

Los fanboys de están empezando a perder la cabeza. Hablar de XFree86 en presente o decir que la aceleración por hardware no es importante, cuando y la necesitan para simplemente ofrecer su funcionamiento básico en buenas condiciones, no tiene precio.

Geeklandgeekland
2025-06-22

¡Tomá, Güéilan, aprendé! Liberada la primera versión de X11Libre en menos de 1 año. youtube.com/shorts/3RSvxHEektQ

eepyk1tt3nzeepyk1tt3nz
2025-06-22
2025-06-22

@justine I've been thinking which WM to test when I switch to #Wayland
I'll try it out

2025-06-21

#hyprland will einen kostenpflichtigen Premiumdienst einführen.
account.hypr.land/pricing

Mal gespannt. Was immer "Desktop Experience Premium" ist?
Hört sich so an, als würde es sich hierbei um "Extras" on top handeln. Also keine grundlegenden Funktionen.
Finde ich okay.

#windowtiling #wayland

2025-06-21

Bei #niri ist #quickshell Implementation unterwegs. 👍
Zur Erinnerung:
quickshell.outfoxxed.me/

Des weiteren wird gerade überlegt wie man das Github Wiki ersetzen könnte.
github.com/YaLTeR/niri/discuss

#wayland #windowtiling

2025-06-21

Elgato Stream Deck Works Amazingly On Linux

tube.archworks.co/w/sZjaNTJgDC

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