@mrmasterkeyboard @hexaheximal I hope not, but then again there were also calls to yeet #i486 / #i486SX support.

• Which would really suck because a lot of newly deployed #embedded systems in #industrial applications are still i486SX-#ISA based like the low-spec #Vortex86 offering #Vortex86SX...

Which you may know from the #Wee86 by @rasteri …

But in the end #support will be up to the #Linux community and @torvalds ...

I.e. #Itanium support as shortly dropped after that got #EoL'd because it was a dead-on-arrival shitshow and basically any buyer stuck with #HPUX on #IA64 anyway…

@slaine np. Contributions & Feedback welcome.

• But basically the Idea of the #tiny486 is similar to the #NuXT¹, #ITXllama², #Wee86³ / #WeeCee⁴ & #PixelX86⁵...

And yes, this is inspired by @rasteri 's #Wee86 #WeeCee:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJEp4ZUG7BI

See the Project: https://github.com/OS-1337/tiny486 @OS1337

@PaulaMaddox noice!

This sounds like a reasonaboe upgrade for the #WeeCee & #Wee86 once #CS4237B chips run out.

• Pretty shure @rasteri and @polpo find this cool!

@cleverboi @FandaSin @BrodieOnLinux @neal to answer your question stuff like @rasteri 's #Wee86 * & #WeeCee ** are quite common in #embedded & #industrial setups because as much superior the #Atom Z520 and E3815 are, these have been discontinued unlike the #Vortex86 SoCs!

• Plus there is no good #ISA support with modern SoC's (Pretty shure not even on AMD's SoC's & #VIA has axed their #ix86)...

Yes, I hate #Microsoft & dislike the fact that people.use #MSDOS despite it being deprecated longer than #WindowsXP exists but someone's gotta have to do #DataRecovery or at least #backup & #restore said systems' drives...
https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114738983433662865

@polpo I guess that solves @rasteri 's #SupplyChain problems for any future #Wee86 / #WeeCee designs and avoid being dependent on "new old stock" like the #CS4237B…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBsv-jRiIT8&t=248s

@SweetAIBelle Needless to say I'm convinced I can just boot @OS1337 from either a #USB-#Floppy(-#Emulator via USB Adaptor) or regular #flashdrive using #Ventoy, as #ISOLINUX distro...

• I've been using that for a while to do #multiboot - #flashdrives to replace #YUMI and not rely on the expensive #IODD hard drive / SSD cases...

I'll test it out today...

Luckily I have some "bare metal" to test against:

• Sony Vaio P11Z (Atom Z520 / i586 & sse3_atom)
• hp t530 (AMD GX-212 / i686, amd64 & sse4.1 )
• Zotac IONITX A-E (Atom 330 / i586, amd64 & sse3_atom)

Sadly I don't have much more "lower end" or "legacy" systems as a significant collection of mine got stolen from storage years ago and I don't have the money flying around to build @rasteri 's #Wee86 / #WeeCee... I was thinking about getting one of those Dell Wyse 3040 which AFAIK come with a #cursed #32bit #UEFI...

Sadly "Potato-level" #Netbooks running #VIA #C7 chips are nowadays rare and absurdly expensive and targeting those would be good as they already get too slow for mainstream 32bit distros like #BunsenLabsLinux so repurposing those as #OS1337 testing machines and target hardware may be a good option...
Tho just clocking down a #ThinClient with VIA Edenwould be sufficient to test out.

One of the machines that stolen from me was a Futro S300 with a #Transmeta CPU that I originally intended to use as #Windows95 box...

• Like with #Android - #ROMs I've to likely do custom .config files to target such hardware and stay within the 1440kB size Limit for or the "CORE Edition"...

@sabi Tho depending on your budget, time and skills it may be Worth the effort for you to look at the #Wee86, #WeeCe, #86duino and other projects and see if something like a #SOM / #SBC module with #ISA + custom #PCB may even be a better option, as there are #Vortex86 Chips down to #i8086+#i8087 and those will sip even less power than the #NuXT, making it way more fitting for a short 19" 1U enclosure if you want it to be basically #fanless and #silent to tue point of only having the PC-Speaker as source of noise...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJEp4ZUG7BI

But IDK if you're good at PCB design or what your skillset is in detail or if you just want one for yourself or something you can market to others as a side biz...

@sabi Well, there are #FlexRisers and besides the #PicoGUS by @polpo there are also #CS4237B-based #ISA Soundcards...

• In theory you could use the #WeeCee / #Wee86 documentation and Schematics from @rasteri to #DIY such a solution...

That could not only fit into 1U @ 19" but also #NUC / #UCFF form factors and be entirely #fanless on it's own...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJEp4ZUG7BI

@felsqualle thx m8!
That'll really make it easier for folks that want to #DIY their #Wee86 or #WeeCee like the one @rasteri built.

I hope @polpo can make the #PicoGUS as flexible as the #CS4237B over time so that there's a means to build a #MSDOS-based "#DOSmini" system with accurate hardware and only new stock parts...

@icefoxx I really should take a closer look at the #PicoGUS by @polpo since it's likely to be a more reliable to source option than a #CS4237B as used by @rasteri for the #Wee86 & #WeeCee...

@felsqualle
I started @OS1337 before #Microsoft released #MSDOS under a permissive #FLOSS license and I doubt it's possible to fiddle-in #toybox and other #unix-esque tools under #DOS...

• Because as nice as #DOS is, a somewhat modern #Linux is way more #versatile...

That being said I do think that MS-DOS 4.0 being released and people working on it is a net positive for the #RetroGaming community and will allow people to basically build new #WeeCee / #Wee86 - Style #MiniPC|s without relying on Microsoft not caring about piracy of EoL'd Windows Versions at all...

@polpo I'm shure it's not a #CS4237B like @rasteri used for the #Wee86, so it's not acting like a Quad-Mode #AdLib / #SoundBlaster / #GeneralMidi / #Wavetable-Synth card...

Or does it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBsv-jRiIT8&t=244s

@polpo the only feature one may miss is #SoundBlaster 16 / #GameBlaster compatibility and maybe a #PC104 version and a header for a #Gameport...

Then it would be a perfect replacement for the discontinued #CS4237B that @rasteri used on the #Wee86 & #WeeCee...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBsv-jRiIT8&t=255s

@ActionRetro C3's are hard to come by...

You may be able to find some #C7-based #industrial and #embedded boards, similar to the SBCs that @rasteri used for the #Wee86 (A #PC104-based Retro Mini PC) and #WeeCee (same concept but smaller and eith a more modern CPU) but those will be frightingly expensive.

Not shure how well #VIA made cross-generation compatibility but consider getting a #ViaNano and see if you can choke it down in the UEFI/BIOS to match C3 performance...

@flyingsaceur @polpo *nodds in agreement*

Maybe @rasteri and @foone would be interested in taking a closer look at it.

Considering they did somewhat work on the #wee86 / #WeeCee's sound solution based off #PC104 / #ISA that could be in the realm of possibilities, tho both Wee86 & WeeCee do have an RTC and only need a battery hooked up to the correct pins to just work out of the box...

@suprjami thanks to @polpo for developing the #PicoGUS because that solves a big issue I see with the #Wee86 & #WeeCee that @rasteri made:

Finding a still-in-production #ISA #Soundcard, because the #CS4237B is out of production amd whilst it's not looking as if the stocks are going to dry up soon, I think avoiding out-op-production parts as much as possible is the most sustainable way to keep it available.

OFC one could also redesign it for #PC104 too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBsv-jRiIT8&t=238s

@nazokiyoubinbou @Javmaster I'm shure the #Book80806 and #Hand386 are commercial offerings of something someone propably cobbled together out of the need to maintain some old industrial stuff or so...

Unlike the #Wee86 and #WeeCee that #Rasteri built.

Also there are a feckton of 8086 clones and donor machines still in circulation....

@JohannessNilsson

I mean I'd love to target some #embedded tech like the #WeeCee or #Wee86...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJEp4ZUG7BI
So feel free to contribute to OS/1337 if you have some idea to get things shrunk down for #i486 to ≤1440kB…

Cuz at this point it needs to fit #Linux #Kernel, #toybox, #dropbear (or rather #dbclient which is the #SSH-client - only functionality) and #syslinux to boot...

So that one can at least do username + password logins using SSH.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337

@JohannessNilsson if that's unsarcastic, you're free to help making that happen.

Cuz I'd love to support older hardware.

#i386 support sadly got yeeted out of @linux, propably because maintaining that became too much of a pain in the rear for @torvalds and others, and considering that the only systems that old are most likely just #airgapled #industrial #PC104 setups running #MSDOS, this is reasonable.

Like @rasteri 's #Wee86:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBsv-jRiIT8