OK, j’ai trouvé comment retrouver l’usage de #FrogFind sur le PC Windows 11 : il fallait… forcer un user-agent disant qu’on est sur Linux et non un Windows récent, comme le dit ce message sur GitHub qui a pu me mettre sur la piste :
https://github.com/ActionRetro/FrogFind/issues/31#issuecomment-2651950833

Et là, ben, ça remarche !

Purée… 🤦

Je comprends toujours pas le problème que j’ai avec #FrogFind : depuis le gros PC Windows 11, j’ai une 503 quand j’essaie d’y accéder ; alors que tout roule depuis les PC sous Arch Linux (et aussi la tablette Windows RT ; donc c’est même pas un souci lié à l’OS).

Passer des DNS de FDN à Unbound n’a rien arrangé, donc pas causé par ça non plus. Et les deux machines sont sur le même réseau local et le même réseau Wi-Fi de la box aussi.

Je sèche vraiment sur ce qui coince, car il y a aucune raison que ça coince…

Des idées, les gens ?

#TiL http://www.frogfind.com/ #FrogFind!
The Search Engine for Vintage Computers

@kobilacroix consider #TorBrowser / @torproject !

• Otherwise there's @dillo & #LynxBrowser!

• The latter one works great with @ActionRetro 's #FrogFind!

@mavica_again Thanks for the tip on #FrogFind!

#WhatsMissing:

A modern competitor to #OperaMini with:

• (optional) better #compression,
• (optional) #TUI / #TextBrowsing mode
• choice between different #proxies
• native #Tor, #IPFS & #Proxy Support
• Supporting #Android & #Linux
• Excellent #privacy features (only #allowlisted #Cookies and #JavaScript are being accepted!)
• Native #DarkReader-style integration to darkify or otherwise customize the output of the screen (i.e. print Amber / Green on black or Black on White for #eInk displays
• Can be used not just with a #touchscreen but also #Keypad and arrow keys.

Why?

• Because there needs to be more #competition that isn't yet another #Chromium-#Fork
• that is a good middle-ground between #Lynx and @torproject / #TorBrowser,
• Because @mozillaofficial / #Mozilla is fucking up #Firefox big time by wasting #money on anything but it as their core product...

OFC since #Opera #Mini needs a trustworthy proxy backend any "#clone" would need an #OpenSource'd & #SelfHosting-capable #backend (similar to @ActionRetro 's #FrogFind .com as it breaks #E2EE.

• Otherwise making the Browser just lie by not loading any #Multimedia contents like #images unless clicked may be another option chosen if one doesn't have a #Server to act as said #CompressionProxy / #PerformanceProxy in return...

Needless to say it would be a godsent for anyone stuck on #EDGEland and slower speeds (i.e. #SATCOM like #Iridium)...

• Sadly building a #browser is thousandsfold harder than building a Linux #distro...

I just added some search engine recommendations to the lists.d repo

For this initial version, there are some interesting contenders:

• #DuckDuckGo just to be mentionted as one of the few mid search sites that can be used over @torproject / #Tor and is the #TorBrowser default search.

• #Ahmia which is an independently run #SearchEngine that crawls Tor but filters out the nastiest parts.

• @monocles / #monoclesSearch because it is a "hybrid aproach" doing #searx + filling the gaps with DuckDuckGo.

• @clew, (made by @amin ) which has it's own index but also includes "#bangs" to use external sites. It's focussed on speed and privacy.

• #FrogFind (by @ActionRetro ) also got listed because it's not just a #WebProxy for #VintageComputers but also able to search DuckDuckGo...

As always feel free to open up an issue / pull request if you want to see more entries...

#Search #WebSearch #InternetSearch #Enshittification #SearchEngine #SearchEngines #Searching #Privacy #OpenSource #FLOSS #OSS #FOSS #ListsD

Argh, #FrogFind is down, today…

Is there a maintenance operation currently, @ActionRetro ?

@shaknais I mean, #LynxBrowser is AFAICT pretty standard-compliant.

• Just not doing #JavaScript, delegating Images as links to other programs and barely supporting cookies.

Kinda like #FrogFind by @ActionRetro , tho FrogFind is way more advanced and can handle most modern websites to a degree...

http://frogfind.com

You use FrogFind to get online with your vintage computer.

I use FrogFind to get online over Iridium and EDGEland-speed throttled mobile networks.

• We are not the same!

#FrogFind #VintageComputing #Iridium #SATCOM #EDGEland #throttled #2G #3G #4G #5G #MobileInternet #Germany #WeAreNotTheSame

@dj3ei @SecurityWriter @torproject well, these all can work with neither #Tracking-#Cookies nor obnoxious #JavaScript and have excellent #API|s that enable a vibrant ecosystem of 3rd party #clients and #Apps that can leverage them.

• the Problem is the #Enshittification with literal #malware for #profit and the only valid strategy Is to not just #NameThemBlameThem but #ReportThemBoycottThem for #AntiPrivacy and #ableist design!

It's sad to see that tools like #FrogFind are nowadays necessary to be able to access the #web for the most part and whilst I'll be forever grateful to @ActionRetro for building this, I think it's unfair that we don't demand the same if not better #accessibility from #GAFAMs and other big corporations!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_v2_vTogS8
http://frogfind.com
https://github.com/ActionRetro/FrogFind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWkjuDI9RSo

I wounder if anyone has ported #LynxBrowser or @dillo to the #Wii and used #FrogFind to order stuff elsewhere...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXhFft6ryZ0

@asaflowerblossoms personally, my best experiences are sites that just run in #TorBrowser with disabled images, #JavaScript and #Cookies because it works even on slow systems and narrowband connections.

• In fact, I recommend testing against #browsh and #FrogFind...

@marreg @torproject @ActionRetro Ja, also #FrogFind ist echt #noice...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_v2_vTogS8

Und wer auf #Iridium angewiesen ist oder entsprechend #Schmalband - #Internet nutzen muss (siehe #EDGEland oder Modem ) braucht das...

• Würde mich nicht wundern wenn die Leute in der #Antarktis das regelrecht brauchen oder die #NSF, @awi & Co. entsprechend ne Kopie davon selbst hosten...

@dw_innovation okay, maybe not the answer I hoped for given that this means manually dropping security in @torproject / #TorBrowser.

• Still I'm not completely sketched out by that given #DWnews reputation, but I know this could he done better, as various websites and even stores and forums as #OnionServices showcase...

Given upcoming #accessibility requirements in #Germany I'm convinced cross-testing with #LynxBrowser over #Tor will likely be one of those things that'll necessitate changing that.

• A potential workaround is to use an "accessibility proxy" like @ActionRetro 's #FrogFind ¹ which already comes in handy on extreme narrowband connections like #Iridium ²...

Orange you glad you bought a Power Macintosh? #RetroComputing #FrogFind #SpeechRecognition

Oh yeah. After a battery swap and a hotspot on my phone, I have my Palm TX online. #palmos #palm #pda #frogfind @ActionRetro

@xan @connections @ActionRetro I guess #FrogFind is the new #ToasterTest then...

Will call @OS1337 Version 0.2 when it can download a prebuilt of #lynx browser and open up https://frogfind.com in it. ^

In another thrilling episode of "things connected to the internet that probably shouldnt be anymore", here's a Samsung Beat DJ from 2009 (with B&O tuned audio no less!) firing up #frogfind

Yes I like to play with old phones, PDAs and music players if you haven't noticed. 😁