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@jameshowell Thank you! It was weird thinking back to that. Do you remember the XFree86 server that was built to run in low memory situations? Was it called Xtiny or something? #xwindows #xfree86

@cochise@social.subversida.de @usuario@instancia.org @santi@go.lema.org Estou mais ou menos nessa linha (de rugas) também... Não lembro versões ao certo, mas lá por 96 ou 97, sei lá, um vizinho ficou impressionado demais com os filmes A Rede e principalmente Hackers, quando chegou em VHS, conversava por IRC principalmente com phreakers e começou com #Slackware. Eu demorei pra ter máquina suficiente pra rodar o então #XFree86, mas tentava de toda maneira, com :debian: #Debian #GNU/Linux também. Já tínhamos debates acalorados com um cidadão que era o maior fanboy do que viemos a chamar atualmente de #BigTech, mas que literalmente vivia de instalar de tudo nas máquinas de pessoas físicas e jurídicas com uma maleta recheada de disquetes. Se o fizesse com #SoftwareLivre, seria herói. Como era software privativo, talvez seria privado até da liberdade de ir e vir, comparado injustamente com criminosos violentos, caso os supostos "detentores intelectuais" do Capital que tanto defendia o conhecessem... 🤷

#Wayback 0.1 has been released (#Wayland / #WaylandCompositor / #XServer / #XorgServer / #XOrg / #X / #XFree86 / #XWindowSystem / #X11 / #DisplayServer / #WindowServer / #WindowManager / #FreeDesktop) https://wayback.freedesktop.org/

#XLibre 25.0.0.5 has been released (#XServer / #XorgServer / #XOrg / #X / #XFree86 / #XWindowSystem / #X11 / #DisplayServer / #WindowServer / #WindowManager) https://x.org/

👴💭 Coisa curiosa de pensar, puxando da memória, é que ainda estamos acostumados ao conceito de #desktop de Redmond de 1995 :wintrash:, quando fazia mais sentido usar o espaço vertical, em monitores menos largos. Se as telas já fossem largas nessa época, talvez tivessem bolado diferente aquilo, pelo menos a barra de tarefas com botão de menu principal que tinha sido a maior novidade, e não estranharíamos tanto essa mudança que fazemos a conta-gotas até hoje. Pessoas que talvez tenham usado o #X / #X11 / #XFree86 / atual #Xorg :xorg: , #NextStep ou diversos desde antes, quem sabe com algum gerenciador de janelas (ex. WindowMaker) que não tivesse barras exatamente como as de Redmond embaixo e nem no topo das janelas, talvez estranhe menos. Já era diferenciado, por exemplo, o desktop #GNOME quando veio desde o início com barra principal no topo e embaixo... também faria menos sentido ainda se a tela já fosse larga.

CC: @Bruiserzinha@ursal.zone @cadusilva@bolha.one

Based Xlibre Developer Drops XWayland Support

https://video.fosshq.org/w/iVyHzYxGjyC57zxQn5nd6S

El wey que hizo el #fork de #X11 es confirmado neonazi:

https://mas.to/@libreleah/114669835981358887

No sé ustedes, pero tomando en cuenta que a mí X11 va rotísimo en mi compu, y ahora viendo que el único fork aparentemente viable es mantenido y auspiciado por un neonazi, siento que tengo aún más razones para promover a favor de #Wayland, por más que les arda a los antis.

#xorg #xfree86 #fediverse #linux #gnu #unix

Загадка от Жака Фреско
#xorg #xfree86 #xf86 #modesetting #legacy

3000-Abo-Spezial: Mein allererstes Linux von 1995/6 jetzt auch in BUNT!

https://tube.tchncs.de/w/tbX3QpfRAZzjRHYLwDgxzD

Iconography of the X Window System: The Boot Stipple
https://matttproud.com/blog/posts/x-window-system-boot-stipple.html
#XWindow #X11 #XFree86 #Wayland #UNIX

@jhx Makes sense to me 😉 I guess I couldn't really fall for that because I started exploring "alternative" x86-PC operating systems in a time before internet at home was a common thing, let alone with a speed suitable for downloading larger software distributions 😁 (plus getting some "Linux distribution" to work correctly on your machine was a lot more work, e.g. no way to do this without manually editing a monolithic config file for #XFree86 if you wanted a GUI). So you were thinking twice before "starting over" 😅

I started with some old #SUSE, because that came bundled on a 💿(!) with some magazine. Soon I wasn't happy how its "yast" tool fought over changing all sorts of config files etc ...

Also found #Debian first on some magazine disc (2.1 "slink") and managed to install this as a server offering a few services. For the desktop, I tried #Mandrake for a while, back then it was one of the few with largely working and sane auto-configurations... but as #Debian just felt better (simple and powerful management tools you could understand, so they didn't interfer with your manual configurations), I finally got that on the desktop as well. Stayed with that for a *long* time until it grew in complexity and I had hard to solve issues (also related to #systemd when it was first introduced in Debian), so looking for alternative, I figured it was time to say goodbye to Linux. Tried #FreeBSD and this worked awesome for me! For some software, you need Linux, and when I do, Debian is still my choice...

In general, I developed a habit of never changing stuff "just for the sake of it", only when I can name things I'm unhappy with. So for example, I use neomutt instead of mutt now (lots of added features I like that were only available as unofficial patches for mutt), but when people tell my I should try neovim, I just ask myself, why? After all, I'm perfectly happy with vim.

So I also never tried #wayland so far, because I see no need for my usecase, as #Xorg works perfectly fine for me. Currently even experimenting with programming #X11 "directly" (using #xcb) instead of using some UI toolkit. 🙈 Of course, in C only -- there's little you *can't* do in that veteran language 😎

ちょっと何をおっしゃっているのか理解できないのですが #XFree86

"SVGA サーバー対応の汎用 VGA ドライバーを（8bppの320x200固定で）サポートしました"
XFree86[TM] 3.1.1 のためのREADME　 https://xjman.dsl.gr.jp/XF311/XF86RMj.html

Just discovered #myfirstdistro and here's mine: #Suse #Linux 6.0 - It happened at a second-hand shop for hard- and software; between Data Becker and MS Frontpage boxes there was a copy of Suse. The back-cover had a screenshot of what looked very similar to Chigago shell, just a little different. It was #KDE 2. That was when I first realised that there are obviously other systems to operate PCs. I bought that box for 5 Deutsche Mark. 🙃 One week later I managed to successfully start #XFree86 😅

@pgpkeys #gnupg was always a trainwreck and the community was always super hostile to end users.

Maybe it's time to move on with life to something else?

#xfree86 played stupid games leading to purge of toxic project management when crowds moved under #xorg umbrella.

Perhaps we need a similar drama in #openpgp #gnupg community to get something better.