Lmst

Reading this doco on #Debian with ZFS for the root and even part of the boot filesystem …

https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Debian/Debian%20Bookworm%20Root%20on%20ZFS.html

… I am struck by two things:

1. PC-BSD 10 back in 2016 was doing doing all of these manual steps automatically in the installer. All of those separate filesystems and special options for /usr and the like were just installer defaults in PC-BSD. It even had GRUB configured so that it did the right things, *and* worked with beadm.

2. The IXsystems people, who did PC-BSD and later TrueOS, switched to Linux years ago. Why hasn't their demonstrable expertise in making installers and GRUB do all this with ZFS been harnessed?

#PCBSD #TrueOS #Debian #ZFS #IXsystems

Added 𝗨𝗣𝗗𝗔𝗧𝗘 𝟯 - 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗧𝗿𝘂𝗲𝗡𝗔𝗦 𝗦𝗖𝗔𝗟𝗘 𝗟𝗶𝗻𝘂𝘅 𝗗𝗿𝗮𝗺𝗮 to the 𝗧𝗿𝘂𝗲𝗡𝗔𝗦 𝗖𝗢𝗥𝗘 𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝘂𝘀 𝗧𝗿𝘂𝗲𝗡𝗔𝗦 𝗦𝗖𝗔𝗟𝗘 article.

https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2024/04/20/truenas-core-versus-truenas-scale/#truenas-drama

#freebsd #freenas #truenas #linux #openzfs #server #trueos #debian #zfs #ubuntu

Added 𝗨𝗣𝗗𝗔𝗧𝗘 𝟯 - 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗧𝗿𝘂𝗲𝗡𝗔𝗦 𝗦𝗖𝗔𝗟𝗘 𝗟𝗶𝗻𝘂𝘅 𝗗𝗿𝗮𝗺𝗮 to the 𝗧𝗿𝘂𝗲𝗡𝗔𝗦 𝗖𝗢𝗥𝗘 𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝘂𝘀 𝗧𝗿𝘂𝗲𝗡𝗔𝗦 𝗦𝗖𝗔𝗟𝗘 article.

https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2024/04/20/truenas-core-versus-truenas-scale/#truenas-drama

#freebsd #freenas #truenas #linux #openzfs #server #trueos #debian #zfs #ubuntu

@shaul

<https://web.archive.org/web/20191015022837/https://project-trident.org/post/os_migration/>

> … Project Trident is based on FreeBSD and uses the TrueOS build framework. …will rebasing with Void Linux. …

2020: <https://www.truenas.com/trueos-discontinuation/>

#Trident #FreeBSD #TrueOS #Void #Linux

@scottjenson I read the page, then boosted, without knowing who you are. Then checked your profile. Oh, my.

I was a huge fan of Macs, the HIG in particular, for more than twenty years.

Thank you. Thank you.

Apple's lie about Yosemite – no, the title bar of Safari (my favourite software) did NOT present the title – was the thin end of what I perceived to be unacceptable degradation of the Guidelines. Driven, I suspect, by management, not by the human end users.

When the audiences at and after WWDC simply smiled, applauded, and lacked the bravery to call out the spoken lie – a URL falsely described as a title, whilst the new Safari was on-screen – I knew that the slide downhill would be irreversible.

Fandom ended. Mavericks was the end of the line, for me. I switched to PC-BSD.

#Apple #MacOSX #Mavericks #Yosemite #Safari #PCBSD #TrueOS #FreeBSD

I have realised that BSD OS' are getting right royally screwed for desktop hardware support and driver development.

#BSD #FreeBSD #NetBSD #OpenBSD #TrueNAS #TrueOS #PCBSD #MacOS #XNU #Darwin

@springcomp please, what sale?

The greatest dwindling of my presence might have been around nine years ago. I naturally abandoned Apple products – prior to that, I enjoyed contributing to Apple Stack Exchange. Linked from my profile:

<https://wiki.bsd.cafe/user:grahamperrin>

「… The GUI of OS X 10.10 Yosemite drove me away from Apple. I gradually switched from OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks to PC-BSD. Then TrueOS, then FreeBSD-CURRENT. …」

#FreeBSD #Apple #MacOSX #Mavericks #macOS #Yosemite #TrueOS

#TrueNAS is dead [1].

Long live #XigmaNAS [2].

After @iXsystems disappointments with #PCBSD or #TrueOS they now plan to do the same with #FreeNAS successor #TrueNAS. Being #FreeBSD based was ONLY reason I recommended it.

[1] https://theregister.com/2024/03/18/truenas_abandons_freebsd/
[2] https://xigmanas.com/

*BSD meetup :runbsdBg:

It is a little over 1 week to our very 1st BSD NL Full Day Event!

This wouldn't have been possible without the generous help we got from our Sponsors :flan_hearts: :

Event details

📍 Place: Maximus Brewery, Utrecht
📅 Date: November 11 2023
🎤 Talks from: @otto and @labellaragassa => program.html
🖱️ More info: bsdnl.nl

See you there! :flan_wave:

#OpenBSD #FreeBSD #DragonflyBSD #NetBSD #HardenedBSD #SecBSD #TrueOS #Darwin #RUNBSD #BSDFAM #Netherlands #Meetup #Beers

*BSD meetup :runbsdBg:

It is already less than 10 days to our full day BSD meetup in the heart of the Netherlands on November 11th. And you are most welcome; regardless of your technical experience or skill level! Do you have any interest in BSD, Unix, tinkering with embedded boards? Then this is the event to be! :flan_hacker:

📍 Place: Maximus Brewery, Utrecht
📅 Date: November 11 2023
🎤 Talks from: @otto and @labellaragassa => program.html
🖱️ More info: bsdnl.nl

See you there! :flan_wave:

#OpenBSD #FreeBSD #DragonflyBSD #NetBSD #HardenedBSD #SecBSD #TrueOS #Darwin #RUNBSD #BSDFAM #Netherlands #Meetup #Beers

*BSD meetup :runbsdBg:

We are organizing a full day BSD meetup in the heart of the Netherlands on November 11th. And you are most welcome; regardless of your technical experience or skill level! Do you have any interest in BSD, Unix, tinkering with embedded boards? Then this is the event to be! :flan_hacker:

📍 Place: Maximus Brewery, Utrecht
📅 Date: November 11 2023
🎤 Talks from: @otto and @labellaragassa => program.html
🖱️ More info: bsdnl.nl

See you there! :flan_wave:

#OpenBSD #FreeBSD #DragonflyBSD #NetBSD #HardenedBSD #SecBSD #TrueOS #Darwin #RUNBSD #BSDFAM #Netherlands #Meetup #Beers

# *BSD meetup :runbsdBg:

We are organizing a full day BSD meetup in the heart of the Netherlands on November 11th. And you are most welcome; regardless of your technical experience or skill level! Do you have any interest in BSD, Unix, tinkering with embedded boards? Then this is **the** event to be! :flan_hacker:

* 📍 **Place:** Maximus Brewery, Utrecht
* 📅 **Date:** November 11 2023
* 🎤 **Talks from:** @otto and @labellaragassa => [program.html](https://bsdnl.nl/202301/program.html)
* 🖱️ **More info:** [bsdnl.nl](https://bsdnl.nl)

See you there! :flan_wave:

#OpenBSD #FreeBSD #DragonflyBSD #NetBSD #HardenedBSD #SecBSD #TrueOS #Darwin #RUNBSD #BSDFAM #Netherlands #Meetup #Beers

On November 11, there is a full day *BSD meetup in Utrecht, the Netherlands. It'll be talks, coffee, hacking, slacking and beers with other *BSD enthusiasts, developers and tinkerers. Be sure to drop by and say hi - or even stay and enjoy the 'gezelligheid'. Event page at: https://bsdnl.nl

#RUNBSD #OpenBSD #HardenedBSD #SecBSD #FreeBSD #NetBSD #DragonflyBSD #TrueOS #Darwin #BSDFAM

@herrbischoff I understand the use of #Freebsd as a server is their priority, not desktop/laptop, but I'm sure it would be a success with better #wifi management (and suspend maybe, I don't know the state of it nowadays). #TrueOS was gathering a lot of audience until they drop the desktop environment, which mean a lot of people are interested in this concept.

edit: that said, I've yet to test #wifibox. Can you tell us more about your experience with it ?

I don't get to blame #FreeBSD for the poor /usr/share/skel/dot.zshrc file on one of my machines. It turns out that #TrueOS replaced the entire /usr/share/skel/ directory with its own versions of everything.

It's not a very good .zshrc, either. It hardwires a whole load of stuff that the Z shell already provides automatically in the $termcap array, then tweaks it with more hardwired stuff because lxterm and teken do not match.

And it doesn't even update non-main keymaps.

#zsh

@paoloredaelli @freezr

PC-BSD/TrueOS used to give the user several choices, from LXDE to GNOME, of desktop environment to start at login. There's definitely a range available. GhostBSD runs MATE out of the box, of that is one's thing.

#FreeBSD #TrueOS #GhostBSD