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Let's Explore the intellectual lineage that manufactured the West, beginning with Mesopotamian urbanism and peaking in the Axial Age.

Civilizational heritage

Ancient social structures

Cultural evolution

Historical frameworks

The roots of modernity
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#WesternCivilization #LongTermism #ClassicalAntiquity #HistoryMatters #ZarionZoryStory
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https://open.substack.com/pub/zarionzory/p/the-axial-pulse-chronos-chaos-and?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=6wcwai

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Athens, Greece

Core: Democracy, individualist philosophy, & tragic drama

Epoch: 8th to 4th BCE (The Golden Age)

Dates: 508 & 399 BCE

The Roman Arc

Epoch: 8th BCE to 5th CE (Founding to Fall)

Dates: 509 BCE (Republic) & 476 CE (End of the West)

The Near East: Mesopotamia & Egypt

Core: Writing, agriculture, & urbanism

The Axial Age: 800 to 200 BCE

#WesternCivilization #LongTermism #ClassicalAntiquity #HistoryMatters #ZarionZoryStory

More Everything Forever: AI Overlords, Space Empires, and Silicon Valley's Crusade to Control the Fate of Humanity | Adam Becker (interview)

Silicon Valley billionaires, such as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Sam Altman, promise salvation through space colonization, immortality, superintelligent AI, and endless growth. Adam Becker, astrophysicist and author of More Everything Forever: AI Overlords, Space Empires, and Silicon Valley’s Crusade to Control the Fate of Humanity, debunks these profoundly immoral and biophysically impossible delusions, and explains why resisting them through collective action is essential. Highlights include:

How tech billionaires confuse science fiction for reality and why their fantasies of space colonization are biophysically impossible;
Why Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) remains an ill-defined concept that is based in the false assumption that humans’ evolved brains work like computing machines;
Why large language models (LLMs), the dominant form of AI, are neither creative nor accurate enough to achieve the dreamed-for leap in machine intelligence;
What the end of Moore’s Law tells us about diminishing returns to technological complexity and the expectation of endless technological growth;
Why longtermism is a dangerous ideology of technological salvation and endless growth, prioritizing hypothetical future populations while excusing present-day social injustice and ecological destruction;
How the fear of death underlies techno-utopian off-planet and transhumanist fantasies;
Why resisting their oligarchic visions requires calling out the ridiculousness of their ideas and organizing collectively to push back both politically and economically.

0:00 Introduction

4:44 Motivations to write the book

9:23 Confusing science fiction for reality

12:37 Musk and Bezos reasons for off-planet plans

15:55 Musk Mars plans are delusional

20:33 Bezos space station plans are delusional

23:34 Kurzweil’s AGI dream

29:27 End of Moore’s Law

34:38 Limits of large language models

36:37 Longtermism perversion of ethics

44:58 Effective accelerationists

48:42 Malcolm and Simone Collins

50:32 Fear of death and technological salvation

53:57 Meaningful democratic resistance

@gregorgrau @silberspur @RAlpenstern

Hier wurde zum Longtermism / Langzeitismus bereits gebloggt & intensiv diskutiert. Bei Interesse: Herzliche Einladung! #Longtermism #Langzeitismus #Longtermismus https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/langzeitismus-der-kommende-faschismus-feiert-die-klimakrise-fossiler-wahnsinn-3/

I was in a discussion a few days ago about #tescreal, when this image from a #longtermism essay was posted. Somehow, it was being used as an argument for environmental despoliation and whatever billionaires, oligarchs and techbros wanna do because(missing middle), and the rights of these future masses to exist outweighs the rights of anybody in the present. Of course, these are people who don’t exist and thus don’t have a voice to override the Peter Thiels of today. Also… that missing middle.

Infographic comparing the number of humans in the past (red), present (green), and next 800,000 years (yellow), in a scenario where humanity's population stabilizes at 11 billion with a life expectancy of 88 years. Used to show that the rights of nonexistent future people(and thus, somehow, the privilege of the currently dominant to pollute the environment and use those people as they see fit)outweigh any rights of present people.

I don't agree with all of this -- I **generally** don't usually fully agree with @taylorlorenz -- but this is a good high-level summary. Worth watching. (Or listening to, the visuals aren't central!)

#tescreal #billionaires #techbros #longtermism #singularity #effectivealtruism #transhumanism #mindchildren #accelerationism #bullshit #BillionairesAreNotYourFriends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dIC287Zz0

For this week’s #ThursdayBooksandBeer I’m continuing with the take downs of the weird world of tech and AI with Adam Becker’s More Everything Forever. This is essential and sobering reading that covers the (supposed) Singularity, Effective Altruism, Longtermism and Techno Optimism, all of which are basically deluded and try to distract us from the very real problems that exist in the world by pointing towards a shiny new capitalist future in space that AI will bring us. My apt accompaniment is an Iterative Logic IPA from Inner North Brewing. “The dream is always the same: go to space and live forever.” #reading #literature #ai #ea #longtermism #craftbeer

@sellathechemist
The headline is as weird as nominating Trump for the Nobel Peace Price.
Why not start with #science around one of the countless topics where #Musk and the Society poaches. For example the physical reality on mars. https://royalsociety.org/news/2024/10/science-book-prize-winner-2024/ But how far is the Royal S. away from Musks rediculous global strategy? Is there even a need of resettlement of humankind in a few 10 or 100 years from a planet with a geophysical expiry date of 100.000.000 years?

#transhumanism #longtermism

If you stand too close to it, you can't see the industrial policy plan for all the .. , ‘anchor projects’, .. , ‘real-world laboratories’ and ‘communication standards’. Even a global perspective is too narrow to provide an overview of the corporations' digitalisation plans.

To do so, we would also have to consider the perspective taken by its agents, who openly promote their plans. The perspectives of the heads of the largest robot car manufacturer and the largest delivery service, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, are
not global, but cosmic. When Musk sends a car into space, it is not a joke, but a symbol. When Branson, Bezos and Musk compete to shoot space tourists into weightlessness, it is not a sport, but a new business model.

Bezos and Musk are promoting their leap into space with the mission of overcoming humanity's attachment to Earth. Unfortunately, apart from their geometric perspective, .. they do not provide any temporal context: beyond the solar system, there will be no leaps in space travel in the foreseeable future. In our lifetime .. , the maximum for manned space missions will remain the Moon and Mars for an elite minority. However, in order to prepare for interstellar space travel, .. humanity would have over 100,000,000 years if it did not destroy the foundations of life on Spaceship Earth within 100 years and turn Earth's orbit into the world's most dangerous scrap yard within 10 years.

"No Robot Fairy Tale" 1019 © 2021 by Karl Dezeti, DeepL helped Transl.

Longtermism ideas are constantly being laundered by reputable science youtubers.

On their own those ideas would rightfully freak any of us, that's why the constant pandering and watering down in new formats, easily digestible for mainstream audiences.

Longtermism is the closest thing to a modern day satanic cult. Many countries around the world ban dangerous cults. It's time to start raiding the tescrealist compounds.

#tescreal #longtermism

The Dangers of Effective Altruism | Alice Crary

https://populationbalance.org/the-dangers-of-effective-altruism-alice-crary

Mp3: https://pdcn.co/e/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/overpopulationpodcast/Alice_Crary.mp3?dest-id=1132667

@Sentientism this one is for you.

#effectiveAltruism #longtermism #ea #tescreal #humanSupremacism

Gjengen i #Langsikt har nå forvillet inn med synsing i flere medier. Aftenposten, Khrono, Univeristetsavisa osv.

En siste krampetrekning? Gjøre seg synlig når statsbudsjettet forhandles?

#allheimen #TankesmienLangsikt #longtermism

"In evangelizing for their view, longtermist luminaries have propagated numerous lies about their ideology and/or community. For example, folks like MacAskill intentionally deceived people (see this article of mine for details) by perpetuating the falsehood that Sam Bankman-Fried — perhaps the most famous longtermist in the world — lived a modest life, when in fact he flew on private jets, lived in a “$35 million crypto frat house,” and owned some $300 million in Bahamian real estate. Pfff.

Because many longtermists, including MacAskill, are basically utilitarians, they don’t believe there’s anything intrinsically wrong with acts like lying — or fraud. If the outcome of spreading lies is overall good, then it would be morally wrong to not lie. Hence, do not trust anything that longtermists tell you about their worldview or community, as moral integrity is not — with history as our witness — something they care much about.

Here are three other insidious lies they’ve spread about their worldview. To my knowledge, this is the first time that anyone has called out such falsehoods:"

https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/three-lies-longtermists-like-to-tell

#LongTermism #Philosophy #HumanExtinction #Religion #Ideology

Hipster Eugenics: More genetically 'superior' kids

While the Nazis aggressively enforced a system of blonde haired and blue-eyed people, many parents today desire gene-edited babies with blond hair, blue eyes and a selection of genetically 'superior' traits.

Hipster Eugenics: Better Babies for Billionaires
https://www.geneticsandsociety.org/biopolitical-times/hipster-eugenics-better-babies-billionaires

‘Hipster eugenics’: why is the media cosying up to people who want to build a super race?
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/apr/20/pro-natalism-babies-global-population-genetics

Gene editing is being sold on the promise of healthier babies — but what are the ethical concerns?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-22/ethics-of-gene-editing-designer-babies/105496228

"The Collinses are prominent figures within the pronatalist movement, which advocates for higher birth rates as a means to address demographic and economic challenges."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_and_Malcolm_Collins

Nazi Ideas about the Aryan Race
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-racism
#eugenics #HipsterEugenics #parenting #parents #DesignerBabies #ART #pronatalism #longtermism #tranhumanism #IQ #FarRight #racification #PhenotypicAppearance #blonde #genetics #CRISPR #PrecisionBreeding #SocialDarwinism #biopolitics #ethics

@HG
"Preserve the light of consciousness" is just #Longtermism, a confused and repugnant 'ethical theory' turned into a pseudo-religion.

#TESCREAL nonsense where individual people have no intrinsic value but are just (contingent) vehicles for conscious states like pleasure and pain.

Danke für die Anregung, @mattze

Über #Langzeitismus / #Longtermism hatte ich bereits gebloggt.

@giggls

https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/langzeitismus-der-kommende-faschismus-feiert-die-klimakrise-fossiler-wahnsinn-3/

I sometimes can't help but think Graeber might have accidentally schooled Thiel on how to be a supervillian.

Regardless, give this a watch when you have time.

Graeber, David, and Peter Thiel. “Where Did the Future Go?” Interview by John Summers. November 14, 2014. https://thebaffler.com/latest/graeber-thiel.

#Anarchism #Socialism #Longtermism #ComicBookVillians #Graeber

**Alt Text:**
Two men in dark jackets sit facing each other at a table in a library setting. Tall bookshelves fill the background. Water bottles sit between them. Both appear engaged in serious conversation during what looks like a formal debate or discussion.

**Caption:**
This image captures an intellectual debate between economist David Graeber and entrepreneur Peter Thiel, hosted by The Baffler. The academic library setting reflects the scholarly nature of their discussion about technological progress and societal futures. The formal yet intimate arrangement emphasizes the gravity of their philosophical exchange about where innovation and human advancement are heading in the modern era.

Die europäische Taktik im Ukraine Krieg - Ein paar ganz persönliche, politisch unerhebliche Gedanken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLwMUCWh4uw

#Langfristigkeit #langfristigdenken #LongTermism

We are the first generation that can end extreme poverty and the last that can prevent runaway climate change. We hold every card. History will ask if we played them.

We wrote an in-depth essay about this unique moment and the responsibility that comes with it. It is not about optimism, but about the specific, systematic work required to build a better future.

#Future #Progress #Longtermism #Climate #Poverty #AI #Politics #BigIdeas

https://open.substack.com/pub/10billion/p/the-last-generation-that-can-choose?r=2063al&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

"When I was leaving the community, I thought that my answer in the future to that question would be yes — but it’s not. I thought that I would think it’s a tragedy that I no longer have the same sense of purpose in life, the sense of meaning, the hope for the longer term future of humanity. Also the promise of immortality, the possibility I could live forever. But I really don’t.

I feel like having left the transhumanist and longtermist communities, I have been able to develop and foster a new appreciation and connectedness with life on this planet. I mean, Mars is a toxic wasteland. It is a horrific place. There is no planet B. You go to Mars, you step outside and open your mouth, your saliva will boil off your tongue. Earth is incredible.

What transhumanists are really all about is how shitty being human is. You know, ‘It sucks to have this meat sack. We’re so dumb. We can only move so fast. We can only process information so quickly. We only live so long. It’s just an awful situation. We need to transcend that through technology and then we’ll get to something that’s really worthwhile.’ I just reject that. I like the way things are. I want to preserve this. I care about this."

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2025/07/the-curious-sci-fi-beliefs-of-the-ai-tech-elite

#SiliconValley #AI #LongTermism #Transhumanism

Da bin ich gespannt, wie der Ansatz von Palantir verlaufen wird, deren Software auch schon bei schwäbischen Automobilbauern eingesetzt wurde (Vorhersage rund um die Lieferkette z.B.).

"Umstrittene Polizei-Software soll nur Übergangslösung sein"

Laut dem Innenstaatssekretär Thomas Blenke (CDU) wurde der Vertrag aus diesem Grund befristet für fünf Jahre geschlossen. Wenn bis dahin eine deutsche oder europäische Lösung bereitstehe, werde man auf diese umstellen

Der. Chef von SAS (auch eine US Firma) sagt dazu:

"Wer behauptet, es gebe keine leistungsfähige Alternative, irrt“, lässt sich Simmeth zitieren; Palantir habe kein technisches Monopol. Es gebe mehrere Anbieter, die transparenter, rechtsstaatlich robuster und technologisch flexibler seien.

https://zeitung.krzbb.de/data/95964/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/95964/pub/131093/page/2/content/4343457

#palantir #thiel #longtermism #überwachungssoftware #badenwürttemberg #polizei #datenschutz

#Longtermism

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