Whenever I see people talking about LIbreOffice, I think back to the early days of GNOME of AbiWord and Gnumeric.
While they didn't have all the bells and whistles of LibreOffice, they were a delight to use- fast, easy, and I'd say they were fun too.
Yes, StarOffice was functional and powerful, it was never really *fun*. While I'm glad it was freed and made into OpenOffice, then LibreOffice, I wish the simpler tools had persisted.
#LibreOffice #GNOME #OpenOffice #StarOffice #AbiWord #Gnumeric
#Gnumeric 1.12.59 "TBD" has been released (#GNOME / #GOffice) http://gnumeric.org/
Anyone know stuff about how #Gnumeric represents decimal numbers and whether that has changed between Gnumeric versions?
Simplified example:
I have a .gnumeric file made with Gnumeric 1.12.35 (packaged by #Ubuntu, released 2017). It contains only the number 4.99 in cell A1. If I export it to CSV, I get a CSV file with 4.99.
I copy that file over to another computer and open it with Gnumeric 1.12.55 (packaged by #Debian, released 2023). In cell A1 I see the value 4.9900000000000002 (I didn't count the exact number of zeros). When I export it to CSV, I get that ...0002 as well.
When I create a file with 4.99 with Gnumeric 1.12.55 (the newer one), it saves as 4.99, it exports to CSV as 4.99, and when opened with Gnumeric 1.12.35 it shows up as 4.99 as well.
Computers are the same architecture, the one with old Gnumeric is an i5-8259U and with the new Gnumeric is an i7-8850H. If that matters, the OS with the old Gnumeric is a frankeninstall that I recall started out as Xubuntu 14.04 and was updated in fits and bursts.
I know about floating point decimal representation and its inherent issues. But the file I created with Gnumeric 1.12.35 was fine for all this time (exporting to CSV as well) and I am wondering if there's a setting in Gnumeric somewhere I can set so that both versions read 4.99. (That's a simplified example - the real thing is a spreadsheet with ten thousand values, I could possibly round them all but I'd rather do it only as last resort.)
Sorry, #gnumeric, but I have to do this as long as you grab for taking all my Libreoffice files every time you update:
zypper rm gnumeric && zypper al gnumeric.
Not Nice.
#linux #opensource
@itsfoss Sadly we do not have any good lightweight app for word on Linux at all. I can use #gnumeric for spreadsheets and it's fine, but for word documents I'd rather use #atlantiswordprocessor via #wine than any existing linux-native software as they simply suck (yes, I'm looking at you #abiword !) :(
I know that #LibreOffice Calc is the bees' knees for *so* many good reasons, but there are times that the comparatively much simpler #Gnumeric is just so much more performant, particularly when working with large spreadsheets or pasting complex tabular data from the web.
Episodio 25: Gnumeric
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Here an actually awesome list:
"LIST OF AWESOME #GTK3 #GTK4 APPLICATIONS"
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The list of @GTK apps is very comprehensive and helpful.
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I guess #gnumeric is lighter, so it would be good for people that just need expenses in spreadsheets on an old computer for their organization.. But I had better luck adding data labels with #Calc.
But I really need to focus and do a script to put out simpler charts of lines, with better labels, with plot. At this sort of level, maybe just Racket's pict would be good. Each labeled column or row as a named pict would go well for sequenced appearances, arrows, annotations and quizes in slideshow.
#Gnumeric ist Teil des #GNOME-Projekts, funktioniert aber inzwischen auch ohne GNOME. Anfangs wurde es von GNOME-Gründer Miguel de Icaza programmiert.
Früher wurde Gnumeric zusammen mit Abiword, dem Mailclient Evolution, dem Vektorgrafikprogramm Inkscape und einigen anderen Programmen als GNOME Office bezeichnet.
https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Archiv/GNOME_Office/
https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/GnomeOffice
Warum man davon abgekommen ist, weiß ich nicht. Ich benutze diese Programme immer noch sehr gern.
@c@digitalcourage.social @BafDyce@chaos.social ja, die habe ich auch beide installiert. Auf meinem Hauptgerät zusätzlich und gerade für ältere/schwächere Geräte sind das super Alternativen, die super schnell und sparsam sind und für viele Anwendungsfälle aber ausreichen.
Das #Gnumeric und #Abiword aber auch zusammenhängen und als "Office-Suite" bezeichnet werden, war mir aber nicht klar. Aber ist es nicht eher von #Lubuntu bzw. #LXDE statt von #Gnome ?
Solo uso #LibreOffice por falta de alternativas. Ahora está tan hinchado y engorroso que no es muy divertido trabajar con él. También me molesta que los componentes superfluos #Base, #Impress, #Draw y #Math, es decir, 2/3 de los programas, siempre se instalen automáticamente.
No, #OpenOffice es igual en verde. Incluso compré una licencia para #SoftMaker una vez, pero cuando cambiaron a la tontería Microsoft Ribbon, salió volando de mi computadora. No usaré Chinese Office en mi PC y #gnumeric se desvía demasiado del estándar y modifica masivamente las tablas existentes. Y #Calligra también es solo un paquete completo en el que ya perdí interés de antemano.
Es una pena que aquí no se reconozca la necesidad de productos individuales especializados.
I only use #LibreOffice for lack of alternatives. It's now so bloated and cumbersome that it's not much fun to work with. I'm also annoyed that the superfluous components #Base, #Impress, #Draw and #Math, i.e. 2/3 of the programs, are always installed automatically.
No, #OpenOffice is the same in green. I even bought a license for #SoftMaker once, but when they switched to the Microsoft Ribbon nonsense, it flew off my computer. I won't be using the Chinese Office on my PC and #gnumeric deviates too much from the standard and massively modifies existing tables. And #Calligra is also just a complete package that I've already lost interest in beforehand.
It's a shame that the need for specialized individual products is not recognized here.
Ich nutze #LibreOffice ja nur noch aus Mangel an Alternativen. Es ist inzwischen so aufgebläht und behäbig, dass die Arbeit damit wenig Freude bereitet. Zudem ärgert mich, dass die überflüssigen Komponenten #Base, #Impress, #Draw und #Math, also 2/3 der Programme, stets automatisch mitinstalliert werden.
Nein, #OpenOffice ist das gleiche in grün. Für #SoftMaker hatte ich sogar mal eine Lizenz gekauft, aber als man dort auf den Microsoft Ribbon Schwachsinn wechselte, flog es vom Rechner. Das chinesische Office kommt mir nicht auf den PC und #gnumeric weicht zu sehr vom Standard ab und baut vorhandene Tabellen massiv um. Und #Calligra ist auch nur ein komplettes Paket, wo mir die Lust schon im Vorwege vergangen ist.
Schade, dass hier der Bedarf für spezialisierte Einzelprodukte nicht erkannt wird.
Working with spreadsheets a bunch the past few days has made me sadly have to use Excel for some features that don't work quite right in #LibreOffice, #OnlyOffice, #Calligra, and #Gnumeric.
The main issues I've had is getting VLOOKUP()s working reliably, and the little [1][2][3] boxes for subtotals showing up TEENSY TINY when using fractional scaling in Wayland.
#LibreOffice seems to be the most compatible, though. I know lots of people swear by OnlyOffice, but I've had several things not work
После обновления #libreoffice до версии 7.5 им стало вообще невозможно работать. Всё жутко тормозит и не отображается половина символов.
Сегодня весь день работал в #gnumeric и он отличный. Работает шустро, не жрёт весь мой CPU или RAM. Буду дальше в нём работать.
Huh, #libreoffice calc uses '.' as the separator after sheet name while #gnumeric uses '!'
