@fuchsiii @blinry I guess you want to get some more #UltraNav-enabled #Keyboards then...
#UltraNav
@fedora Sadly, #Lenovo wronged me as a professional when they refused to support their "#UbuntuCertified" #ThinkPad #P15v's #WWAN module ( #Fibocom #850GL, based on #Intel's #XMM7360 baseband).
- And that was a €3,5k+ professional device!
Add to that the discontinuation of any #wired - #USB "ThinkPad Compact Keyboard with #UltraNav" and the only reason I've not retired my #X230Tablet for a @frameworkcomputer / #Framework13 or god forbid some #DIY abomination is my belief in #UseLonger!
#ThinkPhone: 1* - does not come with #UltraNav!
https://www.ebay.de/itm/226555463338
#sarcasm #shitpost #tech #Smartphone #Enshittification #ThinkPad #Motorola
@mjdxp yeah - my #BigChungus misses a #TrackPoint, and I'll certainly need one too as I literally can't work without an #UltraNav-Style setup anymore!
- Granted "The Message" is that one's not forced to cram shit on a tiny desk but can afford a 100% Keyboard and mouse next to it!
@arichtman @discontinued people still #mod the shit out of #iPod|s to this day...
Personally, I want some device like that again...
Maybe make it the #ThinkPod with a #UltraNav-Style #Trackpoint instead and out of #Thinkpadnium or #Nokiante plastic, coz #ThinkPad and #Nokia are the most durable materials once known!
Source: https://hexbear.net/post/182319 , not @NanoRaptor
@radmin @tera @critakitty yeah, @frameworkcomputer refusing to make a #TrackPoint keyboard is kinda sad.
- Cuz it's not as if they can't make a call at #Sprintek and maybe even get a custom-coloured rubber cap just to avoid #Lenovo claiming they violate the #UltraNav design / trademark.
Not to mention this isn't unique to even #ThinkPad or #hp #ProBook or #Dell #Latitude & #Getac devices, but even #Sony (#Vaio #P11Z) and #GPD did so...
- I hope they at least got a holder-hole and lanyard loop option for the #Stylus like the #X230Tablet has...
The only things @frameworkcomputer could do better on the #Framework13 would be a toolfree-swappable battery (not feasible with current case design) and #Trackpoint-#Keyboard combo and mere 3 buttons instead of #Touchpad (totally feasible)...
- Cuz I need an #UltraNav-style Trackpoint and can't bear a Touchpad!
@ustralien So yeah I am sad that @frameworkcomputer didn't work out a deal with like #Sprintek to get a #Trackpoint into the #FrameworkLaptop and I'm pissed that #Lenovo discontinued their #ThinkPad #TrackPoint Keyboard for a new and #enshittified version that cost double the price of the #Bluetooth and triple the #wired version before and is #WirelessOnly aka. can't even be used via #USB without a shitty #dongle, making it basically impossible for me to use.
Needless to say I'd still see #Framework & #Fairphone as the only options on the market right now if I had to buy stuff that is available right now!
@ustralien Sadly no, and that's my big disappointment!
@frameworkcomputer decided to choose the #Apple-esque "flat cells below #trackpad" design in the unreasonable #THINN-ness race instead of doing what even the #EeePC and #Sony's #Vaio #P11Z did and have a slot at the back to chug in batteries!
- I know why they did it, as a closed aluminium pan aka. "#lunchbox" design is easier to fabricate, but I'd rather some #ToolfreeSwappableBattery which are IMHO of more practicality than having the ability to swap out every port.
Not that I don't like those #modules, but I'd rather wish for a "#THICC-er" device if that gets me essentials like #Ethernet, #USB-A & -C as well as a #TRRS #HeadphoneJack / #HeadsetJack.
- I mean, I understand they won't make space for a underslung #Dock, a #Slimline - #ODD or god forbid #ExpressCard, and in terms of #tech I'd welcome #Thunderbolt over #OCuLink, but there's a reason I've not canceled the #NUCbook and if I didn't have to buy/procure #COTS products I'd likely just buy a #Pi500 with a #Powerbank and screen slapped on...
That being said the #Framework is still by a long margin the "least #enshittified" device on the market, and same goes for the #Fairphone devices...
- I just wished #FrameworkLaptop and Fairphone were just refusing the #Enshittification trend entirely, cuz I'd rather have a #Toughbook-Style device made out of #Thinkpadnium or even better #Nokianite than some fancy Aluminium stuff if that makes it more #repairable, #upradeable and espechally doesn't result in a #Downgrade.
Not to mention they don't have an #UltraNav-Style #Trackpoint and I do use that instead of a Trackpad.
- The only reason I'm not daily driving my #P11Z anymore is because until I got @OS1337 into a useable state it's hardware, which was already #LowEnd at launch, can barely run @bunsenlabs and thus is not an option for #DailyDriving #Linux #Desktop workflows anyways...
@deallocated no, it doesn't have an #UltraNav!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gb6x_duVXE
やっぱり #VersaPro も #UltraNav になったんですね #NEC
【.biz】NEC、Ryzen AI 7 PRO 360搭載のビジネス向けノート - PC Watch https://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/biz/1644853.html .
@qlp personally, I wished @frameworkcomputer would give #SprinTek a call and get themselves some #TrackPoint instead of the #TrackPad as an option.
- IDK maybe make it green or pink so neither #Lenovo (red) nor #hp (black) nor #Dell (blue) nor #Getac (orange) nor #Sony (gray) can complain.
They can't call it #UltraNav either but what about #SmolNav or #ProNav or something.
- Worst-case they'd have to make a "T H I C C" Edition with a #Perixx #Trackball instead.
@fuchsiii yeah, Lenovo didn't let you buy the #ThinkPad25 when you were like "#ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney!"...
I hope @frameworkcomputer will make a #Trackpoint + Keyboard top cover for the #Framework13 because that would be the final nail that would get me to retire my #X230Tablet...
#ThinkPad25 #ThinkPad #UltraNav #Lenovo #Laptop #Feamework #Framework13 #Trackpoint
@claudius personally, I wished @frameworkcomputer had partnered with #Sprintek to deliver basically the #ThinkPad Keyboard with #UltraNav-Style #Trackpoint because I do use that all the time!
@dushman @raccoon lucky you then...
Mostly heard of the deathadders dying.
I have a Sharkoon Fireglider and otherwise can recommend the Microsoft 4500 and Logitech M90.
In fact, the Logitech MK120 is the go-to-kit I recommend normies...
- Unless they specifically demand something different, like a 100% Board or something with Trackpoint cuz Lenovo fucked up and canceled the Compact Keyboard with #UltraNav (USB) in lieu of a #wireless-only variant that costs 2x as much as the #Bluetooth predecessor and 3x as much as the #wired-#USB predecessor...
@foone Patrick Star Voice: "Is using an #UltraNav-Style #TrackPoint a novelty Keyboard?"
@TopazRabbit now I woshed @frameworkcomputer would offer a #Trackpoint - #Keyboard like the #UltraNav on #Lenovo #ThinkPad|s...
@frameworkcomputer #UltraNav-Style #Trackpoint - when?
I'm shure the folks at #Sprintek can build it...
@sabi Interesting...
Personally, I'd rather want a Keyboard with 24 F-Keys, 12 PF-Keys and a #UltraNav-Style #Trackpoint instead if a #CopilotKey & #Trackpad...
@tecoholic The big disadvantage besides soldered-down RAM is that the #IdeaPad series is even worse in #quality with some boards having so little support that they crack through the mainboard!
- #Lenovo really nosedived in #quality and sadly they also #enshittified #ThinkPads too, so it's not as if the $1k premium is giving you a better experience...
Personally, I just need my #UltraNav-style #PointingStick and I'd never want a computer without it.
- Yes I am the kind of weirdo who even uses it on a #desktop and I'll likely have to buy something expensive from TEX because #Lenovo canceled the Compact Keyboard with UltraNav and #enshittified it to the point that I'm so close calling a meeting with #Perixx and #Sprintek and ask them to build a successor board...
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