#Pi0

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-12-06
Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-11-17

@0x47df I still think the OG #RaspberryPi is good.

  • OFC the #Pi0 / #Pi0W & #Pi0W2 are way better options unless one needs Ethernet but even with a USB-Hub integrating it they're smaller...
Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-10-09

@tobias_kleine aww... it's cute.

Reminds me of those classic portable CD/Tape/Radio combo units and the #Tonies-like functionality to select content besides a (presumably touch-)screen is nice.

  • I wounder if a #Pi0 / #Pi0W is enough to drive it or if it needs like the onboard audio out of a regular #RaspberryPi Model A(+) / B(+)…

Still, very nice...

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-10-01

Personally I'd just get one of those old TVs, and instead of doing the dangerous fiddling inside I'd just add a Composite Video Out to a #Pi0...

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-10-01

Anyone else remember those tiny B&W mini tube TVs that @vwestlife did present?

"What if we copy the idea, but take the worst screen [320x480px] we can get and slap a USB-C Dock under it?"

  • At least the seller is honest about the specs and it can do both USB-C & HDMI-In, so if someone wants to make something to play #NES & #GBA games on a #Raspberry #Pi / #Pi0 they propably can make this one work for themselves...

But for me anything below 640x480px is useless and anything below 800x600px not interesting at all...

  • Espechally since one can get like the 640x480px screen of the #Ambernic #RG35XXSP for < €25 and that'll be way more useful if one wants do DIY something...
Product photo of the "Mini PC Monitor with USB-C Docking Station"...
Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-09-27

@r @fluffykittycat @flower Obviously people have used the #RP2040 for many projects and given it's ease of programming, low price, excellent documentation and easy availability it's no wounder it does put pressue on #ATmega / #ATtiny, #Arduino, #Teensy, etc.

  • At least for low volume productions and prototypes as proof of concept.

#RaspberryPi shure are more and more targeting #embedded & #industrial clients given they do in fact disrupt the market as one can get proper #documentation and #tools without paying $$$$ upfront (AND sign NDAs) just to be able to boot #Linux on it.

  • And competitors fail at understanding that this makes #Broadcom look good and is their entry-way into acquiring new clients. Because selling hardware purely off specs may work in #amd64 land where shit's legacy and the way things work is so entrenched that basic stuff just works as in booting. #ARM and even #ARM64 fail at having that level of #standardization.

OFC the #Pi0 / #Pi0W / #Pi0W2 doesn't need to innovate since every competitor isn't even trying to compete but merely farting out boards with 0 documentation and some halfassed boot images and no post-sales support so they keep dominating by virtue of being the only ones that just work...

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-09-27

@r @fluffykittycat @flower the only reason noone takes an #RP2040 and tries to build a new #Retro-Style #Microcomputer with it is because it's way more effort and hassle than the $5 (/ $1 / $10) discount compared to a #Pi0W (/ #Pi0 / #Pi0W2) - which already come with USB, HDMI & microSD - is worth it.

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-09-11

@krutonium @landley @geerlingguy IDK but I also didn't knew that #32bit #ARM (i.e. #AMRv5r11 as used by the #RaspberryPi #Pi0 / #Pi0W) is out of patent protection...

Killing non-#64bit support in Linux would be a death sentence for many #EmbeddedSystems.

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-09-10

@jgoerzen yeah, in terms of absolute low power draw there may be something more power efficient than the #Pi0W2 (basically a cut-down #Pi3 A+) and #Pi0 / #Pi0W (a cut-down Pi 2 Model A)…

  • There should be lower power consuming yet more powerful (or at least more powerful at the same power draw) options already due to snaller structural width.

  • After all the Xbox 360 went from 203W to 120W during it's lifecycle despite getting the Kinect as additional power-drawing accessory burdened on.

Problem is that so far no "competitior" even came close to #RaspberryPi when it comes to #documentation.

  • Like most of the time they just randomly release some #Android / #Linux image and tell buyers to 'feck off' when it comes to reproduceable builds or mainline #LinuxKernel support

Whereas even some "old" 14nm node'd #ARMv5r11 or #ARMv7 / #ARM64 we'd all expect something that delivers a desktop @ 2W TDP like the Intel Atom x5-Z8350 did over a decade ago!

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-09-06

@landley @lmemsm thx.

  • I really appreciate your efforts and espechally #documentation as it makes it so much easier...

There's a reason I only considered architectures to build @OS1337 against that are "obtainable" and I'll prioritize those that I have in my possession and that can be cheaply acquired, which as of writing are about 12 build targets across 5 distinct ISAs ( #i486 and up, #amd64, #ARMv5r11, #ARMv7, #ppc64) , with only 1 (#i486SX) being currently in focus and the next one being the #Pi0 / #Pi0W who's code will run (abeit not performant) on the #Pi0W2 as well...

  • All 3 #PiZero|s can be had for like €100 in total with shipping and SD-Cards so it's on-par with a useable #amd64 machine like a #ThinClient with proper SSD and RAM...

Also unlike any other #SBC manufacturer @raspberry_pi / #RaspberryPi actually write proper #documentation and not just fart out some random bootable image file and tell users to feck off!

#OS1337

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-09-06

@lmemsm well, I'm open for contributions re: @OS1337 as well as packages for it and if you have some reproduceable build scripts that basically pull the latest release version and statically link all dependencies so one has to only plonk down a single binary (or a folder with it and a symlink into it) then I'll gladly accept said contributions.

  • Bonus points if we can ditch #GCC for #LLVM but that's just a nice-to-have, not a hard requirement. Just open up an issue for a specific package, create some build script, and make a Pull Request.

Target platform as of now is #i486SX first, as that is the easiest to test with #QEMU / #VirtualBox / #86Box / and even bare metal, followed by the #Pi0 / #Pi0W...

  • So yeah, your contribution is appreciated. I merely track builds in the wishlist so there ain't multiple people trying to build the same package...

#OS1337

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-08-27

@cleantext I mean, lets be realistic: #Netbooks that struggled to run #WindowsXP ain't something people were crazed about (besides the excellent #EeePC which came with it's nicely customized #Xandros-based #Linux desktop that put the 7" 480x800px screen to good use!)…

  • OFC one would today rather pick a #Pi0 v1.3, #Pi0W or #Pi0W2 which are all faster, more power efficient and cheaper instead of hardware (soon) old enough to legally buy liquor in Germany.

Not to mention being able to basically run everything off 5V makes it trivial to "outsorce" the "power problem" to some cheap USB powerbank with multiple ports.

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-08-27

@firebones and if you really are on a crunched budget, just get a cheap USB powerbank, some kind of tablet sleeve, HDMI screen module, cheap compact keyboard, mouse and like a #RaspberryPi #Pi0 v1.3 with USB+Ethernet-Hub. and you can have a sub-€100 "DIY Laptop" device with no #WiFi or #Bluetooth and only USB to exchange files.

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-08-22

@rl_dane granted, as @TechConnectify points out this is propably due to the use of #eInk as a tech for monitors being nieche and big panels being more of an exception than norm.

  • I'm still mad #3M decided to pull #PixelQi off the market post-aquisition because it combines the advantages of #LCD & eInk with fewer drawbacks than either alone...

Alas one could in theory #DIY cheaper eInk Monitors if one accepts seconds-per-frame instead of frames per second as well as being willing to fiddle around with a @RaspberryPi / #Pi0 v1.3 and shove that #HDMI2CSI adapter on so it bssically displays a captured #HDMI signal in fullscreen.

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-08-10

@itnewsbot I wished some of those "chinese knockoff console makers" would actually go through the effort and make like a "#GameboyPlayer" but #standalone.

  • I mean they certainly are able to #clone #GameBoyAdvance and #GBASP pretty well, and even a #Pi0 / #Pi0W can emulate #GBA at full speed without hiccups, so making a smol top-loader console for it should be in the cards.

Sadly the #DSlite doesn't support #GameBoy & #GBC cartridges...

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-07-20

@ai6yr @lazygamereviews and @violenceworks did the #VT69 which can not only be hooked up to a #WiFi232 but also have a #Pi0(W) chugged under the hood for a #Cyberdeck-style #UX:
youtube.com/watch?v=wYfpptgb6W8
violence.works

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-07-20

It would also be a more flexible option not just for "dumb #terminals" like a VT320 or VT525, thus desireable for a lot of #legacy / #embedded setup and allow for integrating like a #serial #console into a "Managment LAN" (which should be #airgapped!)…

  • Also an #EthernetModem would really be a cost-effective option compared to proprietary solutions, espechally when one can make a #DINrail-mounted version.

So yeah, a #LAN232 / #Ethernet232 would be kinda cool, even if it's just a #PiZero 1.3 with a USB Serial & Ethernet Chip in a case.

#RaspberryPi #Pi0 #embedded #VintageComputing #LAN #VintageNetworking

Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2025-05-18

@jamesb @0x47df nifty, but I would've expected something like a #Pi0 with #PoE+#Ethernet adaptors...

  • Cuz that'll be able to run #MPI loads.
Kevin Karhan :verified:kkarhan@infosec.space
2024-12-23

@dalias @eniko I wIshed there was a good way to boot external media on #Pi0 & #Pi0w2...

#Pi3B+ and up support #USB-#Boot out of the box...

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